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I just read this is a post and I wanted to know what others think about it. "We are not to prove God to you. God proves God to you. But, He is not going to prove it to unbelievers."

Why would god not want to prove that he is real the mass amout of people that think he is not? To me he would want to spend more time on the people that know he is fake then the people that already think he is real....so basicly if this quote is real why does god not want more people to know about him?

2007-01-19 03:15:24 · 10 answers · asked by deathfromace 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Although I agree it is not for us to prove God to you...and perhaps God proves God to you, I disagree that He is not going to prove it to unbelievers.

I did not really believe in God...but I was curious. I was probably more agnostic, but I wanted to know. So I did my own research and contemplation...and one day had an experience that proved God to me.

So I know God existed...but I was not a believer. You just have to be curious and open minded (open to any answer).

~ Eric Putkonen

2007-01-19 03:25:22 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

God has nothing to prove. God needs neither your belief, nor your love. God is equally disposed to all. It is a matter of reciprocation. When we surrender to God and offer Him love, He reciprocates. When we turn away from God, He also reciprocates. Why would God need to prove something to us? Are we such that God should please us by His presence? People are always demanding to see God, or demanding that God prove this or that. We cannot even demand to see the President of a large company without first following a process, let alone God. We can see God, but we have to follow the process. Those who do not know what the process is will not see God. You asked why God doesnt want more people to know about Him. God is the most famous. Everybody knows ABOUT God. There are people who don't believe that He is there, but they have heard of Him. How exactly would God spend more time on people who "know he is a fake"?

2007-01-19 03:41:57 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

God wants everyone to follow him.

God does reveal himself to everyone even unbelievers. Romans 2 teaches us this. Yet, there is no way I can prove to you that God exsists. I can give you evidence but not proof. And neither can you give me proof that God does not exsist. You may have evidence but not proof.

"The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance." 2 Peter 3:9

2007-01-19 03:25:03 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Only those who believe with faith and their heart enter into God's grace. God already knows if your name is in the Book of Life. Why bother to beat a dead horse. God is not worried about those who have no faith in their heart for God already knows they will not be saved. They will truly suffer in the end. You cannot save something that isn't worth saving.

2007-01-19 03:21:05 · answer #4 · answered by danielle Z 7 · 0 2

I am Christian and a little confused by that post as well... It is untrue. People come to God BECAUSE he proves himself and because He wants to show them himself. Although... The problem lies when people do not recognize what God does.

2007-01-19 03:20:26 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

God already left us proof,and He has at one time or another come to everyone,those who will not see or except,He is not
going to beg.You know God, you have heard of Him.You see
proof all around,deny it sorry for them.

2007-01-19 03:29:23 · answer #6 · answered by gwhiz1052 7 · 0 1

What is God

2007-01-19 11:03:19 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

You do know about Him
But you choose to defy Him.
It is a choice thing
No one can say that they do not know about God

2007-01-19 03:22:01 · answer #8 · answered by Michelle 7 · 1 2

God does prove Himself to unbelievers. People are still accepting Him as Lord and Savior. Of course He works in the lives of unbelievers. He died for all of us, but we have to have faith. Read Romans 10:17
Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ.

God's Plan of Salvation

The Bible says there is only one way to Heaven
Jesus said: "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father but by me." (John 14:6)

Good works cannot save you.

"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." (Ephesians 2:8-9)

Trust Jesus Christ today! Here's what you must do:
Admit you are a sinner.
"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" (Romans 3:23)

"Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:" (Romans 5:12)

"If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us." (1 John 1:10)

Be willing to turn from sin (repent).
Jesus said: "I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish." (Luke 13:5)

"And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:" (Acts 17:30)

Believe that Jesus Christ died for you, was buried, and rose from the dead.
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners. Christ died for us." (Romans 5:8)

"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved." (Romans 10:9)

Through prayer, invite Jesus into your life to become your personal Saviour.
"For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." (Romans 10:10)

"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." (Romans 10:13)
What to pray:

Dear God, I am a sinner and need forgiveness. I believe that Jesus Christ shed His precious blood and died for my sin. I am willing to turn from sin. I now invite Christ to come into my heart and life as my personal Saviour.

"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:" (John 1:12)

"Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." (2 Corinthians 5:17)

2007-01-19 03:28:35 · answer #9 · answered by frankyglitz 4 · 0 1

He is Allah, there is nothing worthy of worship but He. He knows all things – hidden and revealed. He is the Beneficent, the Merciful. He is Allah, there is no deity but He. The sovereign, the Holy, the Sublime, the Guardian of (True) Faith, the Watcher over his creation, the Mighty, the Irresistible, the Supreme, Glory to Allah! (High is He) above what they ascribe to Him! He is Allah, the Creator, the Originator, the Bestower of Forms. To Him belong the Most Beautiful Names. All in the heavens and the earth glorify Him. And He is the Almighty, the Wise. (Quran, 59:22-4)




Allah is the self-designated name of God as known to Muslims and Arabic-speaking Jews and Christians. It is a proper noun that compounds al, meaning ‘the’, and ilah, meaning ‘object of worship’, ‘deity’ or ‘god’. So, Allah means ‘The (One True) God.’


Say: You dispute with us about Allah while He is our Lord and your Lord? (Quran, 2:139)


To maintain the Oneness of Allah’s Lordship is to recognize Allah as the one, absolute and unchallenged universal power. He caused all things to exist when there was nothing; thus He is The Creator. He nourishes and sustains all life, causing it to grow, develop and decay; thus He is The Lord and Cherisher. Nothing happens except what He allows to happen;¹ thus He is The Sovereign Master of all that is.


Allah creates everything and He has charge over all (that He creates). (Quran, 39:62)

The pagans of the pre-Islamic Arabia affirmed this aspect of Islamic monotheism or Tawheed; that is, the Oneness, Unity and Uniqueness of Allah. They had always recognized Allah to be One God of their ancestor, Prophet Abraham, and believed that He (Allah) was the supreme Creator and Sustainer of life. They never denigrated Allah in the form of an idol or image because they understood He was beyond representation. This is acknowledged in the Quran when Allah instructs Muhammad to challenge the idol-worshippers:


Say: Whose is the earth and whosoever is therein, if you know? They will say: ‘Allah’s! Say: Will you not then remember? Say: Who is Lord of the seven heavens and Lord of the Great Throne? They will say: ‘Allah! Say: Will you not then fear (Him)? Say: In Whose Hand is the sovereignty of everything and He protects (all) while against Whom there is no protector, if you do know? They will say: ‘Allah!’ Say: How then are you (still) deluded? (Quran, 23:84-9)


To the learned Jew also, the name ‘Allah’ is not something foreign. The Hebrew noun for God is ‘Elah’, sometimes written in its polite-plural form: Elohim. Elah is itself derived from the Hebrew noun ‘Alah’ which shares a common spelling, root and meaning with the Arabic name for the One God. For Christians too, God’s name is the same as that recognized by Muslims. In Arabic Bibles, the name of ‘God the Father’ is ‘Allah’. While in Aramaic, God is called ‘Allah’ – the proper noun by which Jesus referred to God in his native tongue. So, Jews, Christians and pagan Arabs had been calling God ‘Allah” centuries before Muhammad was even born.

Verily, I am Allah! There is no other god besides Me. (Quran, 20:14)


Though Allah has given each person a mind with the power to think of evil and a body with the ability to do evil, it is we who choose to put our evil ideas into practice. So while it is true that ‘Allah created you and all that you do’ (Quran, 37:96), it is also true that ‘whatever of evil befalls you is from yourself’ (Quran, 4:79).
Hence, the mission of the Prophet Muhammad was not to inform humanity that Allah is the Almighty Lord, Creator and Sustainer, as this is something creation instinctively recognizes and the people already believed in. Rather, the call of all the Prophets was to instruct humanity to direct all their worship² to Allah alone.


And We did not send any Messenger before you (O Muhammad) except We (also) inspired him (saying): ‘There is no deity but I (Allah) – so worship Me alone.’ (Quran, 21:25)


Maintaining the Oneness of Allah’s Exclusive Right to be Worshipped is the foundation upon which Islam is built.



Allah, there is none worthy of worship but He. The Ever-Living, The Self-Subsisting. Neither slumber nor sleep overtake Him. To Him belongs whatsoever is in the heavens and on Earth. Who can intercede with Him except by His permission? He knows the past and the future and they can encompass nothing of His Knowledge except what He wills. His Chair extends over the heavens and the earth and He feels no fatigue in guarding them. And He is The Highest, The Mighty. (Quran, 2:255)

In truth, Allah is the only One Who can respond to worship and answer supplications. The Believer prays to Allah sincerely:

You alone we worship, You alone we ask for help. (Quran, 1:5)

Some say that prayers have a greater chance of being answered if the intercession of the pious is sought. But such beliefs liken Allah to humans who require intermediaries. Allah is different, unique, greater than all besides Him. He hears and knows all and can be approached directly by humans. Nor is Allah’s benevolence constrained by superstitious notions such as luck and astrology.³ Allah controls all that happens, good and bad, and bestows His grace and mercy on His creatures as He justly pleases. To avert evil or receive good, one must turn to Allah alone and seek His help.

Call upon Me (alone) and I will answer you. (Quran, 40:60)

In reality, to call upon or pray to the righteous, like Jesus, Mary and Muhammad, or to place faith in icons, talismans, amulets and lucky charms, is to elevate them to Allah’s status and worship them in derogation of Him. To worship anything besides Allah is to ascribe partners to Him and this is the crime of shirk, the greatest of all sins. If a person knowingly dies upon shirk without having had repented for it, they will never be forgiven.


In Islam, worship is an all-embracing concept which, as well as ritual acts like prayer, encompasses all goodness, decency and devotion expressed through obedience, sacrifice or humility. In short, any feeling of the heart, speech of the tongue, or action of the limbs that emanates from a genuine love, hope and fear of Allah, sincerely seeking His pleasure and adhering to the Sunna (i.e. the Prophet’s inspired practice), constitutes worship in Islam.
Say: Truly, my prayer, my sacrifice, my life and my death are all for Allah, Lord of the worlds. (Quran, 6:162)

When Muhammad’s son died, an eclipse occurred and rumours of Allah’s personal condolence quickly arose. Whereupon Muhammad announced, ‘An eclipse is a phenomenon of nature. It is foolish to attribute such things to the death or birth of a human being.’ (Bukhari)
Verily, Allah forgives not shirk (to worship/ associate others) with Him, but He forgives (anything) less than that to whoever he pleases. And whoever makes shirk with Allah has invented a tremendous sin. (Quran 4:48)


Allah is the One Who, in His divine wisdom, perfect knowledge, absolute justice and boundless mercy, legislated through His Messengers, laws by which humanity could govern itself. To obey Allah’s laws is to worship Him. To obey those who allow what Allah has forbidden or forbid what Allah has allowed is to worship them, Once, when the Prophet recited:

They (Jews and Christians) have taken their rabbis and monks as lords besides Allah. (Quran, 9:31)

Adi b. Hatim, a former Christian, said: ‘(But) we didn’t worship them!’ The Prophet asked: ‘Did they not forbid what Allah had allowed and you also forbade it; and they allowed what Allah had forbade and you also allowed it!’ Adi replied: ‘Certainly!’ The Prophet said: ‘That was your worship of them.’ (Tirmidhi) Likewise, to blindly follow people’s opinions on matters divine without understanding or seeking evidence from Allah’s Revelation is to worship such people. Fallible human opinion, no matter how pious or informed, can never rival the authority of Allah’s infallible knowledge.4

Say: The things that my Lord (Allah) has forbidden… that you speak of Allah without knowledge (Quran 7:33)

According to what Christians call the Old Testament and Jews call the Torah,5 Allah rested on ‘The Seventh Day’ of creation. Hence, Jews take Saturday and Christians Sunday as a day of rest wherein work is considered a sin. In the same book we read: ‘The Lord was grieved that He had made man on the earth, and His heart was filled with pain. So the Lord said, “I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earth, men and animals, and creatures that move along the ground, and birds of the air – for I am grieved that I have made them.”’ (Genesis 6:6-7) Two chapters later, God is convinced that He over-reacted and decided: ‘never again will I destroy all living creatures, as I have done.’ (Genesis 8:21)

Fatigue, ignorance, grief and regret; these are all earthly qualities and emotions – far removed is God from such deficiencies. Imperfection and weakness are the attributes of a created being, not its Creator. By likening Allah to humans who tire, need rest, err, experience regret and grow in knowledge, the Bible’s authors have compromised His Tawheed (i.e. Oneness, Unity and Uniqueness) and thus committed shirk.


We access divine knowledge through Allah’s Book, the Quran, and its explanation in the words and deeds of His Prophet, the Sunna. Moreover, in the understanding of the Prophet’s companions and their followers, Islam’s true application has been forever preserved for us.
Concerning this partisan use of the Old Testament, Allah says:
The Jews say that the Christians have nothing (of true faith) and the Christians say that the Jews have nothing (of true faith) – yet they recite the same scripture?! … Allah will judge between them on the day of Resurrection about that wherein they dispute! (Quran, 2:113)

And remember when Luqman said to his son, advising him: ‘O my son! Do not associate others(in worship) with Allah. Verily, shirk (associating others/ascribing partners with Allah in worship) is a mighty oppression.’ (Quran, 31:13)

Allah is not to be described with the qualities of His creation and nor is the creation to be given His divine qualities. To maintain the Oneness of Allah’s Names and Attributes is to describe Him only with qualities befitting His Majesty; those names and attributes with which He has described Himself in the Quran or those taught to us by His Prophet:

Allah – there is no deity but He. To Him belong the most beautiful (descriptive) names. (Quran, 20:8)

We may show mercy but Allah is The Most Merciful. We may possess some might but Allah is Almighty. Human vision is limited in range and colour and can focus only superficially at single objects at one place and time. Allah however, can see all things everywhere, independent of space and time. So although we see, Allah is All-Seeing; likewise we hear, but Allah is All-Hearing, and so on. Thus, Allah’s Names and Attributes are unlike those if His creation.

There is nothing comparable to Him. And He is The All-Hearing, The All-Seeing. (Quran, 42:11)

Christianity teaches that Prophet Jesus, the Messiah and son of Mary, was really a God incarnate so that He (i.e. God as His own son!) could sacrifice Himself to atone for the sins of man – despite Christianity also teaching that God Himself creates all as ‘born sinners’ in the first place.

And they say: ‘The Most Merciful (Allah) has begotten a son.’ Indeed, you have brought forth a heinous thing. The heavens are almost torn apart, the earth split asunder and the mountains felled in utter ruin that they (dare) ascribe a son to The Most Merciful. It is not befitting (the Majesty of) The Most Merciful that He should beget a son. There is none in the heavens and the earth except that it comes before The Most Merciful as a slave. (Quran, 19:88-93)

The Prophet said: ‘Allah says: ‘The son of Adam lies against Me though he has no right to do so; and he abuses Me though he has no right to do so. As for his lying against Me, it is that he claims that I cannot recreate him as I created him before; and as for his abusing Me, it is his statement that I have a son. Nay! Glorified am I (above such a blasphemy)! I am far from taking a wife or a son.”’ (Bukhari)

Blessed is He who has sent down the Criterion (i.e. this Quran) to His Servant (Muhammad) that it may be an admonition to all creatures. To Him belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth. No son has He begotton, nor has He any partner in His dominion. And He created all things and gave them their due proportions. Yet they have taken besides Him objects for worship that can create nothing but are themselves created. And neither do they control nor harm or benefit for themselves. Nor do they control death nor life nor resurrection. (Quran, 25:1-3)

Because Islam rejects as false the crucifixion of a divine Jesus, for Christians the ultimate act of God’s love to His servants, Christians often claim that the ‘Muslim God’ is impersonal and indifferent to His creation. ‘Allah,’ they say, ‘is an all-judging (as opposed to an all-loving) God, high above and far removed from his servants.’

Allah is indeed Most High above His creation, both physically and His Holiness, but He is also The Most Merciful, Loving, Forbearing and Compassionate, and it is due precisely to His forgiving that there was no need for Him to become a man and die to atone for others’ sins. [Besides, Allah is immortal. He cannot be killed by His creation and nor does He commit suicide to negate His own eternal existence.] Islam teaches that humans can have a personal and fulfilling relationship with Allah and does not compromise the transcendence of His Divine Majesty. Allah says:

And when My servants ask you (O Muhammad) concerning Me, then (tell them that) indeed I am close. I respond to the call of the supplicant when he calls Me. Let them then respond to Me and believe in Me that they may receive guidance (and walk aright). (Quran, 2:186)

The Prophet related: ‘Allah the Mighty has said: “Whoever shows enmity to a beloved slave of Mine, I shall be at war with him. My slave does not draw near to Me with anything more loved by Me than what I have commanded him. And My slave continues to draw near to Me by voluntary works till I love him. When I love him, I am his hearing with which he hears, his seeing with which he sees, his hand with which he strikes, and his foot with which he walks. Were he to ask of Me, I would surely give and were he to seek refuge in Me, I would surely grant it.”’ (Bukhari)

And who despairs of the Mercy of their Lord (Allah) except those who are astray. (Quran, !5:56)

Thus, there is no ambiguity in divinity. God is God and man is man and there exists a quantum infinite gap between the two. And while almost all people acknowledge some supernatural force greater than themselves, only the true Muslim believes in and worships that Supreme Being with perfection and due reverence. Others either disbelieve in the Creator entirely or compromise His monotheism, His Tawheed, by degrading Him; confusing His Divinity with what is other and lesser than Himself.

And most of them do not believe in Allah except that they (also) ascribe partners to Him. (Quran, 12:106)

So do not be of those who commit shirk, worshipping false gods or holding false ideas about the One True God. For truly,

(Allah is) the Lord of the heavens, the earth and all that is in-between. So worship Him (alone) and be steadfast in His worship. Do you know of any equal to Him? (Quran, 19:65)

2007-01-19 03:24:22 · answer #10 · answered by amu_abdallaah 4 · 1 0

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