God believers, is the "unexplained and the unknown" all you have to support your belief in God?

Question

God believers often point out what God believers haven't uncovered yet as evidence that God exist

That's like saying "Nobody knows who killed Sara so the invisible man had to do it"

Is this lazy thinking or what?

Answer 1

I killed God but no one knows it... What is your comment now?

Answer 2

Short answer: no, it's not all. Or yes, maybe you're being a bit lazy. ;-)

Longer answer: Faith is not belief without evidence. It is more akin to trust, and trust is not usually given without being earned, that is, without some evidence that trust is warranted. Materialists seem to assume that there ought to be some material "proof" that God exists, something we can measure and analyze and come to an incontrovertible conclusion that God exists. Of course, we can't even come to an incontrovertible decision about material phenomenon, but that's sort of beside the point.

I'm a Baha'i. I became a Baha'i after a couple of years of investigation that led me to the conclusion that the Founder of the Baha'i Faith, Baha'u'llah, was what He claimed to be: God's Messenger for this day. I also have a lifelong interest in astronomy and other physical sciences, majored in the sciences and mathematics, am currently a software developer and an amateur astronomer. So I know a tad about logic and about investigating things.

How does one go about investigating the truth about a religion? Start at the beginning, with the Founder. What was the Founder like, what did the Founder teach, what kind of effect did the Founder have on people and on humanity generally? This is hard because most religions began in the remote past, It was a bit easier in the case of the Baha'i Faith, because it began in the 1800's and the records are rather more complete and reliable.

There is also evidence from one's own personal life, but one has to open themselves up to the possibility. Most materialists in my experience are so closed-minded on the subject that it's not even worth talking about that part to them. That's not a criticism, just an observation. A person can be closed-minded if they want to. We all are in one way or another, I guess.

Answer 3

i'm no longer atheist i'm more effective of an agnostic yet i might want to wish to respond to the question besides. As human beings we may be able to by no ability understand no matter if god exists or no longer. that is not plausible with our constrained ideas. So it supplies me the freedom to question and strengthen, i do not stay in concern of offending some imaginary being. although I did say that i do not inevitably believe that god does no longer exist both, i'm also confident that no man or woman or faith has nailed it yet. such as atheists, it does no longer should be a being, perchance an adventure, a state of being, a body of ideas. Buddhists believe that god is the adventure of enlightenment. That sounds more effective perfect than maximum different religions idea of god.

Answer 4

we (as in all human beings) posses all of our knowledge in the form of judments, we know somthing when we state, at least mentally, that two ideas or concepts are one. If I were to say "Shakespeare is a dramatist." I assert the agreement. If I say "men are not angels" I assert the disagreement to the two concepts "men" and "angels". If our judgment is in harmony with reality, it is a true judgment, so if I say "heat expands iron" it is in harmony with reality, if I say "a circle is not round" then it is a false judgment. Of course there are uncertain judgments, such as "I think it will rain tomorrow". but some statments are so clear, hey can be understood by all who have the use of reason, these are called self-evident.
now to have divine faith...
means to hold firmly to all that God has revealed to man. Our faith is not an affair of sentiment, a 'leap inthe dark', rather it is a 'seeing faith' a 'reasonable service'. As Catholics, we should all be able to say and believe ' I may and can believe the truths professed by my belief, because God has revealed the
'I must believe these truths because God is my Lord and salvation. these judgmens rest on three other judgments
1) there is a God who can neither decieve nor be decieved
2) this God has revealed Himself to us in the old testiment through the patriarchs and the prophets, and in the new testiment through Christ and the apostles.
3) christ founded a church which He endowed infallibility for the safeguarding of divine revelation.

lastly (because I know I'm running on here):

the mysteries of our faith cannot be proved from reason and history, because they are beyond reason and therefore in comprehensible. In reguards to these mysteries, we must content ourselves with proving that they are not contrary to reason and that they posses an inestimable value for souls..... the three truths I mentioned earlier do not fall under the mysteries of our faith, those are truths!

hopefully you consider my answer fair. I wasn't trying to be one-sided, just giving you what you asked for. (and after reading what I have written, you have to admit that these topics are thoroughly thought through and not lazy!)

Answer 5

We believers in God have FAITH, which is BELIEVING in something which has no explanation or reason for existence.
Someone used this example to a similar question I answered a few days ago. The question had to do with the difference between faith and belief.
If you have a chair at your desk, you have faith that the chair will support your weight . I stated the difference between belief and faith like this.
Faith is believing in something you can't see or explain.

If my lights all go out because of a power failure. I know the chair will still be there even tho I can't see it because I have faith. I also have faith it will hold me up even though I can't see it. (In other words, I believe the chair is there even though I can't see it.)

Answer 6

That kind of goes back to the old saying, Have you ever seen a billion dollars? I mean Cash sitting in one place? Or touched it? Just because you have never seen it or touched it, doesn't mean it isn't real.

None of us have ever touched a dinosaur, yet the existed.

I thought "nobody knows who killed Sara so they called in CSI"
You just know God exists because you feel God in your heart. Apparently you are one of those who are put here to move the rest of us up a notch higher on the food chain.

Answer 7

It is hard to explain how some people just KNOW that God exists but we do. It is almost like an intuition only much more powerful.

Answer 8

You're describing the god of the gaps. This occurs when people stipulate their god as an explanation of natural phenomena when they don't understand the real reason. When scientists discover evidence that decreases the god of gap's realm of power, they're usually met with lots of resistance. (creationism anyone?)

Answer 9

God controls the universe and everything is done by his order,sometimes it is done by miracles sometimes not,but the miracles is the one obvious to us.


036.082 Verily, when He intends a thing, His Command is, "be", and it is!

Answer 10

Which is lazier? Asking others to provide proof of God for you,or finding it on your own?