Why do Christians Judge their God when...?

Question

They condemn unbelievers when the very laws of God, according to the bible made people unbelievers, almost in a sense to preserve it? Lets take the Jews for example (going to speak scriptural, although it is allegory), people say they are condemned to hell for not believing in Jesus, yet according to the bible Jesus way was concealed by them. “For this reason they could not believe, because, as Isaiah says elsewhere: ‘He has blinded their eyes and deadened their hearts, so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts” (John 12:37-40 NIV). In the expanded version of the Isaiah verse, it says, "The Lord caused a depth sleep over them."

This is confirmed by Paul in Romans 9:18-23, where he says God creates vessels of wrath. What Paul would say,"O man, who art thou that repliest against God?" So the question remains, why do you judge God for the operation of his own laws by condemning them so, do you find fault with your God and don't know your own scriptures?

And don’t come up with the freewill thing, because according to the bible God preserved them within whatever religion or non-religion they were in, by making them blind to what was in front of them, saying that it was already known who would follow and who wouldn’t. Also this, “…tax collectors and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you” (Matt 21:31 RSV). Notice how he said before you, but doesn’t say they won’t, only implying they will later. So why Judge God for his own ways?

From a biblical prospective you condemn God by condemning others since by God’s will they were made that way.

Deirde, yes my question is very unintelligent. Basically why do Christians judge god, when God hardens the hearts and minds of believers to not follow Jesus, and that it is already known who is going to. You judge God by judging these people by saying they are going to hell for not believing in Jesus, but the very operation of God made these people non-believers. So you are indirectly judging God on account of your lack of understanding, through your judgment of the way God moves things. It shows that you have never understood the allegory behind the tower of babel.

Answer 1

Everyone Read Romans 11. God hardened The Jews hearts So Gentiles could be saved. But God has his own covenant with Jewish people and there still his chosen people. They will be fine

How could you judge a God who saved you

Answer 2

I'm sorry, but your question is quite unintelligible. I can't understand your arguments as they are poorly written.

The ony thing I think I see is that christians judge God, but that's simply not true. The only place in the Bible where it comes close to God causing a person to believe or not was when the Egyptians held the Jewish slaves and after repeated admonitions, God hardened the heart of the pharaoh.

The doctrine of predestination might imply that some will or will not believe, and this might seem contrary to free will, but in scripture, I see nothing that would preach against free will.

Then again, I only stuided Christianity for about 20 years, and I'm just a Pagan, so what would I know.

Answer 3

I'm not sure I fully understand where you're coming from, but allow me to take a crack at this anyway.

You're right. God did blind many people to the truths of the bible. Why? Because they refused to believe. The bible also says that you cannot understand the bible (spiritual blindness) until you're first willing to believe in God. Why? Because God doesn't need to prove Himself to anyone.

That's where this free will thing comes into play. You make the choice (believe or disbelieve) and God acts accordingly (blinds you or opens your eyes). Hope that made sense. Thanks for asking. Good question.

Answer 4

You are assuming that "Christians" condemn people (anybody, for that matter). Many call themselves Christians and they are not. They do and say things that are not Christ like, this is what gives the "true" Church a bad name. Matt 15:8 They honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.

Christians can not condemn, but they can trust and quote scripture as to the "ways" or "fruit" of how a person acts. If God calls murder bad, then we can say if a person murders, what he did was bad. That is not a condemnation, that is judging the persons fruit according to scripture. But a Christian will not (or should not) say that person is "condemned" to hell for what he did, for he is no better than any of us. God can easily give that murderer spiritual site (regeneration) and save him. We are not the judge of one's soul (even our own!). That is God's authority.

You do see scripture properly though concerning the sovereignty of God. His purposes will stand. The Jews have been blinded according to God's will, also ALL unbelievers are blinded also.
But God has done this for the sake of the Gentiles .

7 What then? Israel failed to obtain what it was seeking. The elect obtained it, but the rest were hardened, 8 as it is written, “God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that would not see and ears that would not hear, down to this very day.” 9 And David says, “Let their table become a snare and a trap, a stumbling block and a retribution for them; 10 let their eyes be darkened so that they cannot see, and bend their backs forever.” 11 So I ask, did they stumble in order that they might fall? By no means! Rather through their trespass salvation has come to the Gentiles, so as to make Israel jealous. 12 Now if their trespass means riches for the world, and if their failure means riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their full inclusion mean! 13 Now I am speaking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry 14 in order somehow to make my fellow Jews jealous, and thus save some of them. 15 For if their rejection means the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance mean but life from the dead? 16 If the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, so is the whole lump, and if the root is holy, so are the branches. 17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although a wild olive shoot, were grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing root of the olive tree, 18 do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you. 19 Then you will say, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” 20 That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast through faith. So do not become proud, but stand in awe. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. 22 Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off. 23 And even they, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God has the power to graft them in again. 24 For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, the natural branches, be grafted back into their own olive tree. 25 Lest you be wise in your own conceits, I want you to understand this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And in this way all Israel will be saved, as it is written, “The Deliverer will come from Zion, he will banish ungodliness from Jacob”; 27 “and this will be my covenant with them when I take away their sins.” 28 As regards the gospel, they are enemies of God for your sake. But as regards election, they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers. 29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. 30 Just as you were at one time disobedient to God but now have received mercy because of their disobedience, 31 so they too have now been disobedient in order that by the mercy shown to you they also may now receive mercy. 32 For God has consigned all to disobedience, that he may have mercy on all. 33 Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are his judgments and how inscrutable his ways!

Answer 5

I'm a Christian and I don't judge God.

PS: your question is too long. I stopped reading it when you started talking about the Jews.

Answer 6

I would never judge God, thats His job.