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What is heaven if you have to go through hell first?

2007-01-18 22:14:38 · 23 answers · asked by Just Me 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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He chose Jesus because he was sinless.

2007-01-19 05:28:20 · answer #1 · answered by Yippa,m 1 · 0 1

Well, it's a little bit complicated. God didn't actually chose Jesus to die for our sins, but for another one's sins. It all began way back in Eden, when Adam and Eve did not kept their words not to taste from the forbidden fruit. So, all of their sons and daughters were born faulty, sinful. That's the christian point of view of that. Jews do not believe in that kind of Messiah. For them, heaven is having their own place, preferably next to God.
So, for Christians (the ones who believe that the Christ is the Jews' Messiah - actually, Messiah means the ointed one; if you want, the King), Jesus died as a compensation to their original sin. For now, they are free of that sin. But you can still die for YOUR sins. Actually, the punishment for your sins is not always death. It appears that God decided to skip that kind of punishment when he sent Jesus on Earth. Because his resurrection is a symbol of the continuity of life. It seems that the death punishment is reserved for the end of times. So hang on, i might be wrong and you might not need Messiah.
For the second question, it's slightly more difficult. But the general idea would be that heaven is th opposite of hell. If you don't get through hell first, you would not know what heaven is. It's the same thing with light and darkness. Actually, it's all linked to what i wrote earlier. Jesus went first through hell (he saved Adam and Eve from there) and then got back to heaven. It's a symbolic road. He was born in Heaven, he came to earth, lived and died like a human being and then he went to hell (like any man), but only to return to heaven.
You know what? This is just what we learn. I actually think every other person has its heaven and hell. But the general idea is that heavenand hell are just categories, like up and down, good and bad, moral and immoral. This is how we think. We need patterns. Otherwise, we would surely go mad.

Note: About baptism - you become a christian only if baptized. As a christian, you are absolved of the original sin. As a man, no. Weird differentiation.

2007-01-19 06:44:25 · answer #2 · answered by Mihai N 1 · 0 0

You can! In fact, if you do not accept the gift of the Almighty, you will, anyway. Heaven (the third heaven, as Paul says) is a place. We understand it to be the middle "star" in the "sword" of "Orion". Hell (The great fire often referred to by that word) is a fire that cleans this earth of sin and sinners. All results of sin, and all who choose not to receive the Gift of the Almighty which He gave in the Messiah (Eternal life, and peace, and harmony with Him) will be consumed in that fire. It is prepared for the adversary (Satan) and His followers, and any human who chooses not to receive The Gift Of YHVH will share it with them. After that cleansing fire, the Almighty will make all things new, and very good. If you receive the gift, you will not go through "Hell" which is the fire which purifies the earth. (There are only about 9000 words in the vocabulary of the "Old Testament" and some were used in multiple ways-- we see that in English also, where some words have more than one meaning--and we must see from context which meaning is being used. It isn't always easy, but usually is reasonably clear.

2007-01-19 06:36:57 · answer #3 · answered by hasse_john 7 · 0 1

All someone who has not Sinned can pay for a sinners Sins. Only a rich man can make a poor man wealthy. You cannot pay for you Sins what can you do. How many good things must you do to blot out one sin? And who judges what is good? How much white milk needs to be pored into chocolate milk to make it completely and perfectly white. The answer is infintesmial. All the white milk in the world will never make the chocolate milk 100% pure white again. Close but no cigar. The same with our sins... all the good deads in the world cannot blot out our stains and only one who has no sin can help us

2007-01-19 07:05:48 · answer #4 · answered by 1corinthians2:2 2 · 1 0

god didnt choose that jesus die
god chooses /chose that jesus be born ,and that when he /and we ,die we will be born again
he returned to proove it ,thus we all know we will be born again and even better that we have a room in our /his fathers house when we die .
if jesus died for our sins ,what is sin ,he died despite our goodness
that wills him live,
think if he had not died if he had wrote his truths ,the good lived instead of murdered ,
i would die with mine own sins as well ,
say i die now ,i go to heaven and be forgiven ,WHAT HAVE I BEEN FORGIVEN OF ,
i must know the sins i do ,that i can strive in eternity to make them better ,to grow by knowing my degree of offense ,to feel i earned gods grace ,not that his son died for them.

heaven is the destination thus is why we come up through the hells first ,we all have sins forgiven or not we dont need thier guilt in heaven thus go to /through the hells that they be shed in thier birth place.

2007-01-19 06:47:06 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

It is part of His plan. He gave up his only son to save us all from our sins. He sent His only Son to spread His Good News, and so everyone should be thankful for His great plan for us. It is not enough for one person to die to save him from sins. We are sent here for a mission or task. It is for us on how are we gonna live our lives. We are experiencing problems or hardships in life because God is just testing our Faith. He wants us to hold on to Him no matter what the situation is. Those cruel things happening to us are just the consequences of our own actions. He will not let us suffer, God loves us so much that He wants us all to have an eternal life and happiness. He made us special and created us with conscience to differ us from animals. And so people should know what is right and wrong. If we ask help from God, He will surely help us, He is just waiting for us to call on Him.

2007-01-19 06:29:33 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Jesus was a perfect human being, who is meant to take sin from the world. Adam, as a perfect human, brought sin into the world. Until the time of Christ, the Israelis were forgiven of their sins through the sacrifice of the lamb in the Temple. The process involved slitting its throat to allow its soul to pour out in the ground, than its flesh is destroyed by fire in the Holy of the Temple.

The soul or blood of Christ, the Lamb of God, was spilled on the ground. His body was destroyed by fire in the crypt. Everything that he was, the raw data of his existence, was stored in the Book of Life for transference to his new body, which was in a spirit form.

All this was to fulfill the covenant.

2007-01-19 06:32:52 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

You can't die for your own sins.
You see, the punishment of sin was eternal death, which is the lake of fire. Yes, very painful.

So, Jesus died for our sins and resurrected!
And the Bible never mentions the word 'hell.'

2007-01-19 06:40:41 · answer #8 · answered by Hannah 3 · 1 0

Because it makes for a better story. It allows Christian converts to have a focus for their emotions. Christianity uses that story to make people feel, "Oooo, how crappy I am that I needed Jesus, the perfect lamb, to die for me. Ooooo." Rationality doesn't enter the picture. Having a scapegoat for what you do is an ancient tradition that has never really made sense. It was tradition that a king could do no wrong, so when a young king misbehaved, someone else (sometimes a goat) was whipped instead. This Christian concept of Jesus is the same thing on a grander scale. It still doesn't make sense.

2007-01-19 06:20:30 · answer #9 · answered by nondescript 7 · 1 3

Die and find out.

You can die for your own sins-you will. However since you are guilty-then after you die, Death gets to keep you prisoner. If Jesus pays for your sins, he was innocent and death can not hold you after judgment-it must release you.
Make your choice.

2007-01-19 06:25:25 · answer #10 · answered by Desperado 5 · 2 1

Your just trying to be a little comedian aren't you! You will die anyway and you will answer for your sins and yes if you don't have Jesus as your savior you will go to hell. Very truthfully and bluntly put!
Are you getting the attention you are seeking while you laugh and mock Christians?

2007-01-19 06:21:42 · answer #11 · answered by Dakota Lynn Takes Gun 6 · 1 3

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