The premise of this so-called "question" is demonstrably false, and shamefully dishonest. It is revealing to recognize just how disgraceful the enemies of Jehovah's Witnesses truly are.
Jehovah's Witnesses are disgusted and repulsed by abuse, and are relieved when secular law enforcement officials successfully investigate, prosecute, and punish any criminal who engages in these terrible crimes.
Jehovah's Witnesses fully understand that their role as a religion is in providing comfort to the victim and her family, sharing relevant bible warnings with the congregation and specific potential victims, extolling Christian peaceableness and righteousness, and eventually perhaps in counseling a repentant sinner.
Government workers such as police and prosecutors are generally empowered to pursue criminal matters. Jehovah's Witnesses always work in obedience to secular law and deference to the personal decisions of victims (and their families, where practical). Jehovah's Witness ministers do not investigate criminal matters, leaving such matters to law enforcement authorities.
An unrepentant baptized Jehovah's Witness who is found guilty of a secular crime is likely to be disfellowshipped (or "excommunicated", although Witnesses do not use this latter term). However, a sin against God's supreme authority is clearly a different matter from a sin against secular superior authorities. The standards for criminal conviction and forced religious disassociation will never be identical.
This so-called "question" is almost certainly not sincere, but rather is intended as a slanderous assault on Jehovah's Witnesses. Interestingly, such "hatred" should be expected by true Christians in this time of the end, and it actually helps identify Jehovah's Witnesses as Christ's true disciples:
(John 15:19) If you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because you are no part of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, on this account the world hates you.
(2 Timothy 4:3-5) For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories. You, though, keep your senses in all things, suffer evil, do the work of an evangelizer, fully accomplish your ministry.
2007-01-19 05:41:04
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answered by achtung_heiss 7
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1982 Corning, CA Congregation
For cause, but not the ones some ex-JWs who want to put themselves on a pedestal, want you to believe, and know you will without question.
Before I step into this hornet's nest, let me tell you that I've been accused more than once of sexual abuse of children. What did I do? I attend hears in which a father is being falsely accused of sexual abuse of his children. Because I was sitting there, behind the father, the mothers would point at me, and say that I was also sexually abusing the child(ren) with the father. In one case, I was visiting a friend who was a judge and he suggested I attend the hearing of a fellow judge. Naturally, I didn’t know whether the father was guilty or not, until the mother pointed me out and said I had been helping him. It was easy to disprove, but she was not penalized for lying it. It is not illegal in most states to make a false allegation of child sexual abuse.
For 18-years, I’ve seen how easy it is to make these allegations. In a recent case, here in Kansas City, a father was in a domestic violence shelter that allows men to be there with the children. Despite the fact that the mother was abusive, she was given unsupervised visitation rights. You don’t see that in the reverse. During a visitation, she scratched the little girl between the legs, threatened her into saying that the father had done it, than called the police. He was arrested.
A second examination of the child found nail polish matching the mother. The charges were dropped against the father, but because he was accused, he cannot reenter any shelters with his child. That law also only applies to men. As for the mother, at the most, she may get five years and will not have to file as a pedophile, as women cannot be registered as such in Missouri.
What I’m saying here is how easy it is to make an allegation without proof. If you simply followed what is reported on the news, your conclusion would be that all men are either rapists or potential rapists, are spouse abusers or potential abusers, and will abuse their children at some point in their lives. The news goes for the points, not the truth, and the Watchtower makes an easy target, just as all men are.
One of the biggest difference between them and the other religions is the lack of power and position to protect. In other religions, a pastor is doing it as a career. They get paid for it and has a lot to lose if they get caught, so it is important to cover it up, but in the witnesses its not the same. Members of the governing board, the district servant, the circuit servant, the congregation overseer, and the elders are all the same. They had to support themselves through jobs as fishermen, carpenters, electricians, window washers, etc. They don’t get paid to hold their positions and they don’t remain in those positions for any long period of time. The size of the governing board changes, depending on the availability of men without any other obligations. They live in a two bedroom apartment in the same residential building as the volunteer workers for the printing plant. No big houses, no big financial portfolios, no private planes, and no “Look At Me and how Holy I Am” on the nightly news.
The witnesses strive to keep the congregations clean of reproach, and are harassed for doing it. It is claimed that no church can be clean of immoral activities, regardless of what it is, and as such, it is not possible to do. JWs show that it is possible. They are accused of being a cult, yet open sexual activity is one of the signs of a cult, something more often found ion Christendom than in the JWs.
2007-01-19 02:56:00
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answered by Anonymous
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Unfortunately, there's a lot of anti-JWs in the news and Internet. To get a direct answer from JWs, please go to www.watchtower.org and do a search for abuse, child abuse. Or you can go to http://www.jw-media.org/ and find "abuse policy". JWs do not protect criminals, because Jehovah our God is holy and He hates wickedness. Or you can get the watchtower CD, search for articles that talks about that particular subject. Once you read those articles, you can have a balanced view of what's really happening. Not everything the media says is truthful and balanced. If we are not rooted down deep in the Christian faith, we will always be "tossed about as by waves and carried hither and thither by every wind of teaching by means of the trickery of men, by means of cunning in contriving error." Eph 4:14.
And what the Watchtower society also filed are of those people who abused children so that then can let the elders know that the person who comes to their congregation has that experience and not be given any responsibilities in the congregation and that they can protect the kids inside the congregation as well. Those abusers are reported to the authorities and if the elders doesn't have enough proof, the victim has the right to go to the police and report the matter to them.
Thanks for asking, but beware of those who wear the sheeps clothing but inside are wolves.
2007-01-19 10:29:22
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answered by trustdell1 3
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Listen, I'm a JW and my profession was investigating fraud. I used to work for the government. Investigating the JW's is what led me to become one.
All religions, doctors, lawyers, creditors etc., have a "confidentiality" policy in place that is usually enforced my local and federal government.
Right before dedicating myself to Jehovah, I caught a baptized JW committing fraud at a particular company. I encouraged him to seek out the help from the elders.
The elders can not stop you from talking to anyone. I learned that they encourage the wrong doer to take all steps necessary to correct their strayed path. They didn't "hide" anything from anyone. But they didn't ring the bell for the world to recognize this guys sin either.
Little by little and with both spiritual and secular research, I am glad I'm a JW! It's been 10 years and loving every moment!
May Jehovah bless you and brighten your life!
2007-01-19 13:47:42
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answered by Zoila 6
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I used to be a Jehovah's Witness. If the elders found out that someone was a child molestor I think they would disfellowship that person. However, if that chld molestor was repentant there is a good chance that he wouldn't be disfellowshipped. It is no guarantee that it wouldn't happen again though. Although they would never forbid you from reporting the child molestor to your local authorities, it is strongly discouraged. Who wants their wrongdoings publicized? JW's are already under scrutiny and this is just fuel to the fire. That's what I think the main problem was and is, is that they aren't frequently reported to local authorities. And they probably take the child's credibility into account. They aren't perfect either.
2007-01-19 18:53:41
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answered by Mom of Three 6
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You should look into some of PapaBears answers. He is "disfellowshipped for cause" as he puts it, but has been approached by anti-witness groups to lie about why.
People will go to any length to slander Jehovah's good Name.
I personally know of one of Jehovah's Witnesses that was guilty of a sex crime. He has been disfellowshipped and put in jail.
2007-01-19 01:15:51
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answered by girlinks 3
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hmm what are you trying to get at? This organization does not tolerate sexual crimes of any kind! In fact, if a member was caught doing such things and they were not sorry about what they done, chances are this person would be disfellowshipped.
I would like to add: why would you believe anything the news says about anybody including Jehovah's Witnesses?. Please do ask our elders for yourself.
2007-01-18 23:54:23
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answered by sunny4life 4
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these are the works of the apostates..its true we commit crimes becoz of imperfection but our religion do not tolerate such crimes we have committees that disfellow wrong doers besides no one is perfect in the absolute sense..sin will be a thing of the past in the new world..thanks..
2007-01-19 02:33:42
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answered by Obetpogi 1
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Like most other religions dont hide THEIR crimes.... Weirdos and such. Mormons, christians, jews, muslims... Join my new religion. Itll be fun. I havent decided what my religion is yet, but trust me. We will have a ball!
2007-01-19 07:24:07
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answered by Anonymous
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now you know your wrong they were the catholics not the jehovah's witness! Now you done went and started something! here you go! And what are you speaking of or do you really truely know? ohhhhh!
2007-01-19 00:00:30
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answered by wise 5
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