My 7 year old is perfectly potty trained, but lately has started doing the nastiest thing EVER. Whenever I discipline him (no dessert for lying to me, for example), he says "FINE! Whatever!" and then, later, I'll find tied up Safeway bags all over the living room with something in them. I pick them up, and I kid you not, he TOOK A SHlT and PlSSED in those bags and tied them up, & tossed them in the living room for me to find. He's been doing this for a while! I consulted a psychologist AND his doctor about this, and they just said he was testing me. He still has his normal bathroom habits. He only does this when I discipline him. What would you do if your seven year old was DELIBERATELY doing this? When I asked him why he does this, he says "Because you're an asshoIe when you take away my video games or my dessert." ( <-- Lovely language courtesy of his K-8th grade school.)
2007-01-18
11:32:32
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excuse me, I did not raise him to crap in shopping bags like a wild beast. matter of fact, until now, he was like any other 7 year old.
2007-01-18
11:39:55 ·
update #1
my husband (his father) tries to talk him into not doing that, but it doesn't work. every professional I talk to act like it's just a phase!
2007-01-18
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Wow. I would get the kid counseling. That is messed up.
2007-01-18 11:37:46
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answered by Wendy Bird 2
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well, there's one thing for sure: this kid sure knows how to piss you off. And he's only seven? Dang. Ok, you can have him go and get plastic bags for you, since he's using them up so much. (the trick here is that it's embarrasing. ) take him to safeway every day BEFORE he can go home and play video games (also one of the things you can take away until he has at least fifty (or a hundred whatever) bags) *make sure you put these bags in a place he can't find them* The thing is he's disaplinning you for disaplinnning him, so here's your trick:
1: don't show any type of disgust.
2: Don't loose your temper- act calmly, it throws the kid off so he doesn't know what you're going to do next.
3: To further unhinge your kid tell him to go to his room until you come in. (Give him plently of time to ponder it- if he says 'no' then you can pick him up and place him there, you are bigger.) REMEMBER! STAY CALM!
4: Act sad for the kid, "I'm so sorry you couldn't get your poop and piss into the toilet." (This would be new right line of counter-attack right? kid's wondering what's going on) You continue: "This bag is worthless now, but we'll try to recycle okay? You can clean this bag out- and I want you to put the poop where it belonged in the first place(in the toilet). And since it's worthless now you can come with me right now and we can get more bags." (Obviously the video games will have to wait. ect ect ect. If you think driving to safeway is too far you can simply take him to the neighbor's house.
"Love and Logic" by Jim Faye and David Funk is a great book. Here's the addy: http://www.loveandlogic.com/ecom/p-156-teaching-with-love-and-logic-book.aspx
2007-01-18 12:15:40
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answered by justkiddingu 2
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Follow him around. Keep him in the same room with you at all times. Follow him to the bathroom, to the bedroom, to the kitchen. Don't let him out of your sight. If you see him poop or pee in a baggie, startle him (or go buy a loud horn and surprise him, his butt will tighten up--or loosen) and make him sit on the toilet until you are satisfied he is done.
By the way, are you a "time out"-er or a spanker? Just wondering.
Take away his video games permanently. None of this "you did that so no video games for a week" stuff. Have him pack them up himself and go with you to goodwill or the salvation army or some such donation place and hand them the games and game console.
Find better psychologists and doctors that will HELP you instead of say "its a phase".
The father also needs to put his foot down. BIG TIME.
2007-01-18 13:09:00
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answered by Terri 7
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No, no, no, no, no! This is not normal behavior for a seven year old. And your statement that your son is disgusting disgusts me. That's not a normal response either. He is not disgusting; he is troubled and is exhibiting an inappropriate behavior. He's a little boy. He didn't get this way overnight. If the psychologist said he's "testing" you I'd get a second opinion. And I'd get him some mental health counseling. Where is the father? The two of you could use some counseling along with and separate from your son. Your reaction and response to his behavior is very important to whether he will continue the behavior. You ALL need professional help.
2007-01-18 11:41:20
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answered by missingora 7
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I am a grandmother .
I raised six kids, and now keep four grandkids 3 days a week.
If any one of them ever pulled a stunt like that I'd open the bag,
(regardless of the mess it would make) and i would sit them in it,
then I'd make 'him' clean it up!!
If you're not capable of disciplining him then you need help too!!
I am totally serious!! Are you one of those parents who are afraid of being accused as a 'child abuser'.
Well, your 'SON' is the abuser here, and if you allow him to continue to do such 'AWFUL' things then he'll just do worse things next time. He's actually quite 'scarey' in my books, and
a whole lot 'weird'.. But kids DO live out what they are allowed to get by with.. And wash his mouth out with soap when he cusses you.. This is a control issue, and he's sure got the control in your house!! A phase, 'like hell', he's just an undisciplined, unruly brat!! now DO SOMETHING!! Let him 'SIT' in his own crap!!
And tell him he can expect this every time he pulls that stunt!!
2007-01-18 17:41:20
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answered by Anonymous
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If that was my kid I'd take away everything he's got and ground him for months.
I would be tempted to treat him like a dog and rub his nose in it--or leave the bags in his room and make him stay in it--but you can't do that sort of thing in today's PC world.
You might try calling the police--that has got to be some sort of crime.
edit--a good whipping will only work a few times. Then they just get used to it and they'll do even worse things once they get used to getting beat on if they're that type of snooty brat. He sounds like he'd just laugh at you while you were wailing away on him. Call the police because he is way out of control if he's doing that. Even that might not work. Good luck!
2007-01-18 11:51:13
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answered by Mr_B 5
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whatever breed this canines is, you have not any idea of his previous adventure. that in itself is a huge caution signal, no matter if or not that is a Pittie or a Poodlette. It does sound as if he has some intense themes about being left on my own, and the undesirable guy is terrified - i might want to suspect that he were in a set situation the position he became perchance by no ability left on my own earlier. Above and previous although his previous heritage has been, he's of an age even as canines start up to mature and get hormones - and compete with others round them. although if he weren't a rescue canines, and whatever breed, he might want to *by no ability* be left on my own with a 6 3 hundred and sixty 5 days previous newborn. EVER. even as rescued canines might want to correctly be impressive and sweet, and Pitties can make large pets, any canines it truly is apprehensive might want to correctly be an somewhat risky canines interior the incorrect situation. the actual shown reality that you recognize there are questions is the very definition of questionable...as in iffy. Please have him neutered today for his own safe practices, and then somewhat certainly, i might want to contact a robust bully breed rescue and ask for help rehoming him with an experienced adopter that does no longer have small toddlers. there's no longer something about this example that can make me imagine it became a robust idea, and that has no longer something to do such as his breed. Your first accountability is on your newborn, and that i see this as a nasty concern waiting to take position. no longer in common words will a newborn (or you) in all probability be bitten, although the canines will lose any probability he has at arising right into a sturdy puppy. you've instincts for a reason - please, please take heed to them.
2016-10-15 10:25:58
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answered by ? 4
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i would make him sitdown on the couch or a chair for a specified amount of time. make him stay there until you say it is ok to get up. if this doesn't work then i would do this. if you have extra storage space at your place, take all of the toys out of his room and make him earn them back one by one by behaving himself. do this everytime he acts up and eventually he should get the idea not to misbehave. do the same thing with his language too. there is no reason for a 7 year old to be talking that way. this is not normal for a 7 year old to act. if you don't act on this now then he will think it is ok to do this and he will only get worse as he gets older. especially in the language department. good luck.
2007-01-18 13:02:02
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answered by Anonymous
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I know this is going to sound nuts, but I think you shoudn't react in the way that you are right now (whatever that may be). Obviously, he is getting something in return for his behaviour, something that he enjoys, or he wouldn't continue to do it. I don't think it's your fault at all. He just needs to have some boundries set for him. He's trying to get the best of you, and it's working. I think that's his reward. What if you simply walked by the bags and calmly asked him to pick up his garbage? Don't acknowledge what's in the bag and his satisfaction will be gone. Kids are funny........
2007-01-18 13:12:26
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answered by Anonymous
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Wow. I can't believe you allow your son to talk to you that way (doesn't matter where he learned it, YOU are the one that is letting him get away with it.) Sounds like you have a problem with discipline.
The key to discipline is to discipline immediately and consistently with love. Don't threaten or ignore until things get on your nerves then lash out. Kids crave consistency and will do some pretty drastic stuff (and I would say your son is definitely doing something drastic!) to try to get it.
Check out this website for great parenting advise.
http://nogreaterjoy.org
2007-01-18 11:54:45
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answered by Stormie 2
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WOW...
Well, if it was me, I say something along the lines of "You can continue to do this if you would like, but everytime I have to pick up one of these bags, it will being going straight onto the floor in your bedroom. Not to mention you will have nothing until the behavior changes."
That has got to take the cake for acting out! I am so sorry you have to deal with that. I'd go ballistic if my kid talked to me like that. All I have to do is give her "the look" if she's fresh and she shapes up.
I hope you find a solution:(
2007-01-18 11:42:18
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answered by patti_jim_reynolds 3
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