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jesus is God (confirmed by bible), so why did God planned murdering himself to provide himself with a sacrifice, so himself can change his own rule?

2007-01-18 11:30:22 · 15 answers · asked by saegiie 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Jesus' sacrifice did not "change" the rules. Rather it "fulfilled" the Old Testament laws.

If you go back and look at the laws, each one was designed to prophecy something about the person and actions of Jesus Christ. Such as the sin offering that foreshadowed the offering of Christ. Or the Passover, in which three wafers of bread (Father, Son and Holy Ghost) are stacked, and then the middle one (the Son) is taken, pierced, broken, and hidden away. Symbol of the piercing, splitting of the side/heart, and burial of Jesus. Then whoever finds the hidden wafer is granted a request for finding it. Symbol of those who find Christ and receive their "request" in life.

As you go through the different laws, you can see how they foreshadow Jesus. They were given, no just because they are morally right, but because they would point people to Jesus. They would help people to see who he was when he arrived.

Once Jesus completed what he came to do on the cross, there no longer had to be "signs" to point to him. So there was no need to continue the sacrifices, rituals, restrictions, etc. that were signs to him. They were not "changed" but fulfilled. So they were no longer needed.

Read the New Testament book of Hebrews. This is the theme of the entire book. How once the "real thing" had arrived (Jesus), there was no reason to continue the "shadows" that were designed to point to him.

2007-01-18 11:44:32 · answer #1 · answered by dewcoons 7 · 0 0

You are wrong on 2 counts. First, it wasn't God who sacrificed himself. And second, the Bible does not confirm that Jesus is God. John 3:17 says that God sent his SON to earth to save the world. At John 17:3, Jesus called his Father the only true God, thus excluding himself. Jesus called himself the Son of God. (John 10:36)

2007-01-18 11:38:35 · answer #2 · answered by LineDancer 7 · 0 0

The old testament system was never intended to save, only to point out the error of men's ways, and the need for a savior.

And God didn't murder himself.

Jesus permitted Satan and his minions to unjustly put him to death.

Since nobody (not even Satan) had the authority to take the life of a sinless man, let alone the only begotten son of God, Jesus' crucifixion became Satan's undoing.

Jesus then became the new and perfect leader of all mankind, just as God had always intended.

Under Christ, we enjoy the benefits of a new and much better covenant, based on Jesus, grace and mercy, and not on Moses, laws and curses.

2007-01-18 13:11:17 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

God doesn't change. He is eternally the same yesterday, today, and forever. Before the beginning of time, it was His plan and His pleasure to create a world and us, knowing full well that we would rebel against Him.
God is completely just. Our rebellion had to be punished with death. Sin leads to death. That's pure justice.
God is completely good. Because of the great love and incredible grace of our God, He wants to restore the relationship that we have rebelled against. But sin still has to be punished.
Jesus, God in the flesh, was the ONLY spotless sacrifice that could atone for (or pay for) our sin. He gave Himself willingly (not murdered, but freely offered) for the Glory of God.
This was the only way that His "rules" could have been satisfied, not changed. And I thank Him every day for that sacrifice.
Please email me if you want. I'd love to talk further.

2007-01-18 12:05:29 · answer #4 · answered by Bucktastic 2 · 0 0

where in the BIBLE does it say that JESUS IS GOD because it says that he was the SON OF GOD not GOD he was born of a virgin lived a sinless life died a a death where no man should to be a perfect sacrifice to GOD for the sins of the world to be a bridge to GOD for us then rose again on the third day to show we to can have victory over death and hell as well

2007-01-18 11:37:45 · answer #5 · answered by THE WAR WRENCH 4 · 0 0

there's a pretend impact ideal right here. lets ask a logical question. If God killed himself who might want to properly be there to ressurect him? no man or woman. So he in no way killed himself. Jesus and God are 2 distinct and distinct beings. God made guidelines that he also adheres to. He lowers himself to the human aspect and submits to those guidelines. between the recommendations that he put in the Bible is the in reality of repayment "eye for an eye fixed". even as God created Adam acceptable and Adam dedicated a sin he substitute into no longer in that acceptable state. Sin skill to bypass over the mark. He substitute into no longer acceptable. To stability out the size of acceptable justice he provided a corresponding sacrifice, Jesus as a acceptable human. in distinct words he stability the size. He might want to no longer have in user-friendly words in user-friendly words forgiven mankind. His love of justice mandatory to be met and the fee substitute into his son.

2016-11-25 19:15:47 · answer #6 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Strange question. How does God not know the first rules didn't work? Why did God create Satan or the Angel who became Satan if he knows everything? Is Satan a just a "FALL GUY?" Maybe God plays solitaire and we're just another card in the deck? ........Because he can.

2007-01-18 11:41:30 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The god of the bible is clearly insane. The idea that he had to allow himself (in the body of his son - and the Freudian implications of the trinity are huge) to be killed (and he knew in advance that this would happen) in order to forgive people their sins instead of just changing his mind smacks of the same psychology that causes people to cut themselves to punish themselves.

2007-01-18 11:48:19 · answer #8 · answered by Dave P 7 · 0 0

Confirmed by the Bible? This is silly reasoning. You can take any book, I guess, and say because it is written, it confirms what it says? Your NT is a made up book that confirms nothing. It is just words.

So, the whole story you mention is moot.

2007-01-18 11:36:48 · answer #9 · answered by Shossi 6 · 0 0

my friend shared me this dilemma. well it's such a prety good logic.being a half god and half man,jesus subjected to his fate because in the end he will just end up in heaven.he didnt take any opportunity cost because He in the first place know that he belongs to the echelons in heaven.to die for men will not cause him damage because he is immortal.he conquers everything_even death.therefore,it's just ok for him to offer his life as a sacrifice

2007-01-18 11:44:57 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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