No, there are no decent (or intelligent) attacks on atheism.
The reason some theists attack atheists is that we don't have a "manual" that tells us what to believe and what sorts of things to consider impressive. If we had a book that said we should praise a being that drowns, sickens, and slaughters people and who commands us to hurt and kill people, they would actually have something to base their claims on. WE don't.
2007-01-18 10:25:48
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answer #1
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answered by gelfling 7
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Welcome back Jim.
I suppose attacks are in the eyes of the beholder, but I've seen very few "attacks" on atheists. On the other hand, ignorant and obnoxious assaults on Christians are very common, at least from the neo-atheists here. Just look around - if you don't see any, you're not opening your eyes. If you consider that an attack on atheists, it's not: it's a description of people who are rebelling against an imagined Christian upbringing who pick up their opinions from atheist web sites and generally could not think their way out of a paper bag on their own.
I realize that you wouldn't recognize a "decent" attack on atheism, because your own philosophical presuppositions don't allow you to think any attack "decent." Example: somebody mentions fulfillment of Biblical prophecy. You say, that's not a "decent" argument, because we all know prophecy doesn't exist. It's true, we "all know" it - as long as we all share the presupposition that prophecy does not exist.
Until you recognize your presuppositions for what they are, you'll never be able to take part in a real dialog.
2007-01-18 17:39:37
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answer #2
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answered by Gary B 5
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Do you notice that when people attack Christianity they more or less attack Christians, why do you think that is?
What do you think motivates people to attack Christians?
I've never ever seen a decent attack on Christianity, have you?
And yes, I shall have to share credit for the bad rep with you mates who've been at this from the get go.
2007-01-18 17:36:40
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answer #3
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answered by Anonymous
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Any one who attacks you based on anything you believe or how you live is in error and accountable to God. As an atheist, you may not get that concept. Jesus reached out to people with love, not condemnation. He also taught to hate the sin (in this case doubt and unbelief) but to love the sinner just as you love yourself. However, the Bible teaches to rebuke, or correct, those you love so they can correct their life. Except for the grace of God, I would be just as lost as an atheist although I have never been an atheist.
Having someone tell you your life is in a mess without Jesus can be an alarming revelation. And I can see how an attack would turn people off. Most people think they have to change their lives if they become a Christian. But Jesus wants you just the way you are. I pray right now in Jesus name that whoever reads this will have a fruitful relationship with Jesus just as I have. Having a relationship does not prevent anyone from sinning. But it gives us the opportunity to ask for forgiveness and receive it. Those who have "attacked" in the name of Christianity need to repent. God bless you!!
2007-01-18 20:06:51
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answered by Len M 2
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It is natural to see an attack on Atheists when they attack atheism. When you really look at the nuts and bolts of the issue you are attacking what someone believes, in essence you are attacking them for atheism is nothing without someone to believe in it. In the same respect if an Atheist attacks Christianity they are attacking what Christians believe, and a Christian will take it personally as an attack on Christ. Because without followers Christ would just be another person, and His death would be in vain, for no one to believe means no one would be saved. That is the nature of faith, it keeps the religion alive.
The attack on atheists is generally heated because anyone that believes that we evolved from genetic mutation naturally occurring in apes, to Christians this seems like a larger leap in faith than a Almighty God.
If the human race could show any change in the past 6000 years to verify that the race is capable of such a self-change we may be more inclined to look at the theory.
2007-01-18 17:50:31
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answered by L Strunk 3
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It is easier to attack that which you cannot rationally discredit.
Religion is irrational. It is based in bogotry and prejudice - this is most clealy seen in the fact that there are so many gods available (hundreds of thousands across all religions), yet all claim superiority.
Without a logical leg to stand on, the religious would rather use violence to establish there position. Hence the crusades, fatwas, jihads etc. Charlemage threw people into swamps to drown if they would not convert to Christianity - be thankful that we at least have the loony fundamentalists under control to that extent.
2007-01-18 17:48:12
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answered by Anonymous
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It is the same for Christians. People don't attack Christianity, they attack Christians because of their beliefs. I have heard how we are stupid, insane, etc. because we believe in something. That is attacks on us personally, not on what we believe in. I don't understand why people do this except that maybe it makes them feel like they are more intelligent for some reason... It's a shame that we can't just discuss issues of religion rationally and peacefully. Maybe we would not actually change another person's mind, but at least we would still feel as if we contributed something while maybe creating a friendship.
2007-01-18 17:39:48
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answered by †♥mslamom♥† 3
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i would like t say im sorry on behalf of christians for making "personal" attacks. but myself being a strong believer in God and his Word, i have been attacked personally many time s by atheists.and another thing if any one believes there are "holes" in Christianity, you can take that up with the Bible. there are so many proofs for the living God that are undenyable. when i debat, i debate with FACT. NOT opinion. the Bible as my source..
oh and think about this really quick. would you ever expect to be walking through the woods and all of a sudden, "whoa ... its a rolex watch" lying on the ground. you pick it up and say to yourself, "wow, this must have taken 3.7 billion years to randomly make itself. WHOA." only a fool would believe that. so my question is, with the whole earth as evidence, how can man say there is no God. i mean we as people are way more complex than any machine ever! you cannot have a panting without a painter, a house without a builder, and a creation without a creator. read some of Genises to find out a little bit more.
questions, comments?
josephdruther@yahoo.com
"the fool hath said in his heart ther is no God"
2007-01-18 18:02:16
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answered by joseph d 2
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When I criticize atheists on this board, I criticize their actions -- not their faith (or lack thereof).
For instance, I criticize atheists who employ such "debate tactics" as calling Christians "stupid" and "brainwashed" and whatnot.
I also criticize atheists who call for a ban on religion -- and yes, there are many of them who do that. I point out that the Communists who have killed 150 million people over the last century called for the very same ban.
Atheists are "attacked," true, but in my book, some of them do things that legitimately warrant criticism.
That's because, for the reasons I mentioned above, some atheists are the most intolerant people on the planet. Not all, but some.
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2007-01-18 17:46:01
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answered by Anonymous
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Actually, since atheism is really nothing beyond 'I don't believe in a god', I can get the whole 'attack the atheist thing', since we aren't really organized and have nothing in common past the whole no-god thing. If they feel the need to attack something.
2007-01-18 17:36:10
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answered by eri 7
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