Do Christians care at all what Christ said?

Question

1"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
Mat 25:40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done [it] unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done [it] unto me.

Answers to my last question have already shown they don't care about the first two verses, take a look, some of the answers are repugnant. If we acknowledge that gays are Christs brothers too, then by todays"christian" standards, they are the least of them.

So what have you christians done to Christ, when he presented himself to you in the guise of these, the least of his brothers? Denied Him basic human rights? judged and condemned Him? Have you gotten physically violent with your savior yet? I hope he can forgive you, because after that much abuse, I'd let you all burn

Answer 1

You have pointed out one of the seven deadly errors of American Christianity.

I have personal experience being judged, and I suppose you also have been judged since you posted this message. As just one example, the last time I was in the States, a very dear friend of mine who happens to be a Christian, pointed out to me very strongly that I am going to hell. I had been talking with her son about evolution when she stormed into the room and chastised me for planting seeds of doubt into the minds of her family members. To try to calm her down, I apologized for my sin, pointing out that I had no idea that she didn't believe in evolution and that I wouldn't bring it up again if she felt so strongly about it. This did not pacify her, and she went into a tirade about how I was going to hell because I didn't believe in Adam and Eve. Apparently it is not good enough to believe in Christ anymore. Unless one believes in the creation story as well, one cannot be saved. Believe the whole bible literally or reject it all. Black or white. Five minutes into her monologue, I closed my eyes. And ten minutes after that, she had more to say but gave up.

I am only using this as one example. The point of the story is that Amerian Christians become the judges over human souls. There is no need to wait for their god to judge me or you or anyone else because that can easily be done here on earth. These Christians know who is going to heaven and who is going to hell. And their judgment is strict and unforgiving.

You pointed out that many Christians condemn gays. Of course they are condemned. If one can be condemned for not believing in Adam and Eve, how much more wicked must be people who actually engage in an action that these judgmental but sincere Christian people believe is an abomination.

And blah blah blah.

Answer 2

No, they do not care what scripture says. A close examination of 1 Corinthians chapter 4 will show a sinner in their midst, but they were judging the people of the world and being forgiving to the one in their midst. According to verse 10 they should not be concerned with the non Christians actions, but if one who claim to be a brother does such then do not even eat with them. The sin was fornication a fornication such as was not even seen among the pagan a man was sleeping with his fathers wife. But this goes for any sin that Christan's jump on the unbeliever for but do themselves or forgive their own and passes judgment on the outside world.

Answer 3

There is a difference between loving your brother by chastising him and by showing him his wrongs than by letting him do whatever he wants. A two year old might want to go out and play in the street, but does a parent let him? It's not because we don't want him to have fun, it is because we don't want him to kill himself. These are the same things that apply spiritually. It is the same way that God deals with us on a spiritual level. So when our two year old goes out in the street, what do we do? Do we let him get hit by a truck or do we bring him back and put him on time out? It's love, even though the child doesn't know it yet.

Christians do their best to try not to judge, but Christ also said to try to win your brothers back when they fall into sin. We cannot act as if sin does not exist, or let our brothers stay in sin. Would Christ do that? no. And as children of God, God calls us to help people and call our brothers and sisters back to the faith. There is I believe like a three step system when it comes to this. Do your best to win your brother back and if they don't come call upon another brother and sister to call them back and pray for them, and when that doesn't work take it to the church and if that brother or sister does not come out of it then they must be treated as sinners. We must not involve ourselves too heavily in their lives for fear that we may fall into temptation. And there is no thin line between a right life and a wrong life. Those who are trying to live right live by God's Word, and those who don't DONT. No middle area and that is what people feel. They feel judgement and conviction by the Christian life. A Christian can walk in the room and everyone can feel judged but that is the Spirit of God in that person's life that people are feeling spiritually. It's not judgement its conviction. And that is on one own's conscience.

The sawdust verse is a good one. I love that one because it shows the Lord's sense of humor, authority and truth. This is true that we first must get our lives right and walk with the Lord before we can truly be able to help someone else. If we don't then we are walking blindly.

Answer 4

It has nothing to do with judging, it is just telling people the truth of their ways. Just because I am doing something wrong doesn't mean I can't recognize someone else doing wrong. We don't judge gays, God will do that on judgement day, we just warn them of what will happen if they don't change. It is a christian's responsibility to be a good example to others but we still have to let people know when they are doing wrong. And sometimes having done wrong ourselves, we are more able to relate to it. If I lie to my employer about something , that doesn';t mean I can't turn in a murderer.

Answer 5

I find it more than a little disheartening that you would lump all Christians into this category. As with every group who believes in something there are those who like to degrade anyone with different thoughts. People who are looking to pick a fight naturally gravitate to this type of forum. Unfortunately for people like myself who are looking for inspiration to learn, I see people of all different beliefs who are rude, crude, and vulgar.

I believe MOST Christians follow Christs teachings to love God with all your heart and love your brother as you would want to be loved (paraphrasing). Unfortunately, this philosophy tends to get overlooked due to its passiveness and the few who "judge" others scream from the hilltops and are the ones who get heard.

I don't know if you are a homosexual or not but I doubt you would want me to lump you into a category based on some of what other homosexuals have said on YA. I personally believe Christ will judge those who are sinners and I am not here to do that for him. I would hate to think you would let the few who try to do that, influence your desire to learn about Christ though.

Answer 6

Sad isn't it?

Everyone thinks that since they are saved and now "without sin" that they can act like complete jerks. Most Christians only rely on the death on the cross and not on the life he led and told us to lead.

The only two commandments Jesus stated was to Love G-d and Love others. The world begins and ends with Love. He aslo said to share the good news...not the bad.

Answer 7

Most christians, like most people, have good intentions. And like most people, they can't think rationally and aren't too bright. (75% of the population is under 110 IQ.) They care about what they were TOLD jesus said, or what they think jesus would have said, based on their presumptions of who jesus was.

Jesus tells us how to beat slaves, kill people who don't follow him, and curse nature. Of course, the average christian doesn't care to know that.

Answer 8

No, they don't. They prefer to quote Leviticus, which condones such Christian practices as human slavery and public stonings.

Answer 9

It depends who calls themselves Christians.

Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. (James 2:19)

Answer 10

Yes.

Have you ever heard of admonition?

Have you ever heard of a watchman?

Eze 3:17 Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me.
Eze 3:18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
Eze 3:19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.
Eze 3:20 Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
Eze 3:21 Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul.

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