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If Pope comes from the Word Papa which means father Why do they call him and their other leaders "Father"

matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

I don't mean to bash Catholics, just an honest question.

2007-01-18 04:04:14 · 13 answers · asked by grunto 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Is the religious title “father” correct? It is used widely by Roman Catholics and Anglicans. “Padre,” meaning “father,” is also widely used. But Jesus taught his disciples: “You must call no one on earth your father, since you have only one Father, and he is in heaven.” (Matthew 23:9, NJB) The New English Bible reads similarly: “Do not call any man on earth ‘father.’” Why do clergymen and their followers disobey this command from the Lord Jesus Christ?

In later periods the title was also applied to the bishops of the Coptic, Ethiopic, and Syrian churches and, more particularly, became the title of the Bishop of Alexandria, thereby making him the “papa” or “pope” of that part of the Eastern church. The English words “abbot” and “abbey” are both derived from the Aramaic ’ab·ba’′. Jerome, the translator of the Latin Vulgate, objected to the use of the title “abbot” as applied to the Catholic monks in his time and did so on the basis that it violated Jesus’ instructions at Matthew 23:9: “Moreover, do not call anyone your father on earth, for one is your Father, the heavenly One.”

The pope of Rome is usually addressed as “Holy Father.” But his Italian staff often address him as Santissimo Padre, which means “Most Holy Father.” “Holy Father” is a title that appears only once in the Bible. (John 17:11) It is the exclusive title of the Supreme Being. Is it right for creatures, who are earthly and imperfect, to be addressed by that title?

Read and note the context of Matthew 23:1-12. Jesus begins speaking about the Pharisees, who were a prominent sect of Judaism. They were legalists, sticklers for observance of every detail of the Mosaic Law. They liked to dress and act in such a way as to call attention to themselves. Their religion was one of ostentation, their style of clothing, their principal places at meals, their front seats in the synagogues, and their titles of honor. They even claimed greater respect than that which was given parents. They wanted to be called father. However, Jesus shows that all his followers are equal as God’s children. Any title that suggests the opposite is a haughty usurpation of something that belongs to God. Thus, Jesus forbids the use of the word “father” as a title of honor in a religious sense. Jesus insists that his followers have only one Father in the faith, Jehovah.

Is it not clear that many clergymen are standing on ‘holy ground’ reserved for God and his Son, and that much reverence is diverted from them to imperfect men? True Christians today avoid using flattering religious titles, and they avoid the practice of setting men on ecclesiastical pedestals. Among Jehovah’s Witnesses the only form of address for ministers is “brother.” (2 Peter 3:15) That is in harmony with what Jesus said: “You are all brothers.”

2007-01-18 09:06:24 · answer #1 · answered by BJ 7 · 1 0

Here's an honest anser:

Matt. 23:9 - Jesus says, "call no man father." But Protestants use this verse in an attempt to prove that it is wrong for Catholics to call priests "father." This is an example of "eisegesis" (imposing one's views upon a passage) as opposed to "exegesis" (drawing out the meaning of the passage from its context). In this verse, Jesus was discouraging His followers from elevating the scribes and Pharisees to the titles of “fathers” and “rabbis” because they were hypocrites. Jesus warns us not to elevate anyone to the level of our heavenly Father.

Matt. 23:8 – in this teaching, Jesus also says not to call anyone teacher or rabbi as well. But don’t Protestants call their teachers “teacher?” What about this commandment of Jesus? When Protestants say “call no man father,” they must also argue that we cannot call any man teacher either.

Judges 17:10; 18:19 - priesthood and fatherhood have always been identified together. Fatherhood literally means "communicating one's nature," and just as biological fathers communicate their nature to their children, so do spiritual fathers communicate the nature of God to us, their children, through (hopefully) teaching and example.

Eph. 3:14-15 - every family in heaven and on earth is named from the "Father." We are fathers in the Father.

Acts 7:2; 22:1,1 John 2:13 - elders of the Church are called "fathers." Therefore, we should ask the question, "Why don't Protestants call their pastors "father?"

1 Cor. 4:15 - Paul writes, "I became your father in Christ Jesus."

1 Cor. 4:17 - Paul calls Bishop Timothy a beloved and faithful "child" in the Lord.

2 Cor. 12:14 - Paul describes his role as parent over his "children" the Corinthians.

Phil. 2:22 - Paul calls Timothy's service to him as a son serves a "father."

1 Thess. 2:11- Paul compares the Church elders' ministry to the people like a father with his children.

1 Tim. 1:2,18; 2 Tim. 1:2-3 - Paul calls Timothy his true "child" in the faith and his son.

Titus 1:4 - Paul calls Titus his true "child" in a common faith. Priests are our spiritual fathers in the family of God.

Philemon 10 - Paul says he has become the "father" of Onesimus.

Heb. 12:7,9 - emphasizes our earthly "fathers." But these are not just biological but also spiritual (the priests of the Church).

1 Peter 5:13 - Peter refers to himself as father by calling Mark his "son."

1 John 2:1,13,14 - John calls the elders of the Church "fathers."

1 John 2:1,18,28; 3:18; 5:21; 3 John 4 - John calls members of the Church "children."

1 Macc. 2:65 - Mattathias the priest tells his sons that Simeon will be their "father."

2007-01-18 04:07:49 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 4 1

Matthew 23:6-9 reads, "They love places of honor at banquets, seats of honor in synagogues, greetings in marketplaces, and the salutation 'Rabbi.' As for you, do not be called 'Rabbi.' You have but one teacher, and you are all brothers. Call no one on earth your father; you have but one Father in heaven."

Are we also not to call anyone "teacher" or "doctor" which is how "rabbi' would translate?

This is call for humility for those in leadership roles. Not to be taken literally.

We are not to deny our male parent and cut the Commandment to honor our father and mother in half.

Some leaders in any church may fall into the same folly as the pharisees of Jesus' day.

With love in Christ.

2007-01-18 15:37:39 · answer #3 · answered by imacatholic2 7 · 0 0

i believe you're misinterpreting this verse. Jesus is caution His disciples about putting others beforehand of God the daddy or allowing themselves a position of power and effect equivalent to or more effective than the daddy (study some verses earlier and after this verse to get the completed which ability). in case you provide your minister any type of brand call which incorporates "Pastor" or "Reverend", you're doing an same concern. Catholics do no longer evaluate their priest to be on equivalent status with God and monks do no longer evaluate themselves on equivalent footing with God.

2016-10-15 09:58:25 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

What do you call your Dad? Read Matt. 23:9 and get back to me.

2007-01-18 04:35:30 · answer #5 · answered by Aaron M 2 · 1 0

Does this also exclude your paternal father?

What about Father's day?

That quote sounds like you shouldn't call your fathers "father"/.

2007-01-18 04:09:22 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Pope is a nice guy and he is welcome to our home and can have boiled rice and curry with us anytime everytime all time always. we are hindus living in this tree in Kerala, India and not catholics

2007-01-18 04:12:34 · answer #7 · answered by ByTheWay 4 · 0 0

They are supposed to be the minions, representatives for Christ.

Just curious,

does your little quote there also exclude our actual paternal fathers and stepfathers?

It would seem so.

2007-01-18 04:06:57 · answer #8 · answered by janesweetjane 2 · 1 2

yes catholics are wrong and they dont realise that because the look at the bible and they read it but i feel they do not know what they ae reading or what they are practicing and what they are doing and what will they face in the end

2007-01-18 04:10:18 · answer #9 · answered by suzana r 3 · 0 4

Custom and fashion.

2007-01-18 04:08:16 · answer #10 · answered by greatest_i_amm 2 · 0 1

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