Question for people who question about women in Islam?

Question

About 42% of federally employed women were harassed in their jobs, stated a recent 2 year survey done by the Official Merits Protection Board. Another 60% of the members of the American Federation of State, Country and Municipal Employees said that sexual harassment was a frequent problem for them. And between 1981 and 1985, the number of such complaints to the Equal Employment Opportunities Commission, established to monitor employment practices, shot up by 70%.
(http://www.themodernreligion.com/women/w_westharassment.htm)
police-recorded rapes totaled 95,770 in the United States in 1995
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/html/cjusew96/crpr.htm
for more information of the statistics please refer to Bureau website

Dear AngelDust,
it is not about Kafir women or muslim women, it is about equality and harmony, what Islam has established for woman is that which suits her nature, gives her full security and protects her against disgraceful circumstances,slam grants woman equal rights to contract, to enterprise, to earn and possess independently. Her life, her property, her honor are as sacred as those of man. If she commits any offense, her penalty is no less or more than of man’s in a similar case. If she is wronged or harmed, she gets due compensations equal to what a man in her position would get (2:178;4:45, 92-93)

The point I am tryin to make is that it does not matter what people do, but the blame goes on the religion, society, or government, so it irrespective of what we as humans do but we will not blame ourselves, we will find ways to put blame on others

it is not a propaganda against west...or any nation, just read your answer and you have not fell short of cursing islam for the fate of women in middle eastern countries, I even did not ask you to comment on anything..you should have read my question first..brother..

it is not for rape that 4 witness are required..but for adultery..brother..

Answer 1

totally right bro

Answer 2

The thing you don't point out is that western countries have legal recourse for women who have crimes perpetrated against them. It's quite a different story for women living in fundamentalist Islamic societies. First they are not even allowed the opportunity to work in many environments, so sexual harassment is obviously not a problem...but it is also not giving the woman the CHOICE to work...if she WANTS.

Then there is rape. I suspect the Sharia societies don't have much reported rapes...but just maybe it has something to do with needing 4 men to validate that they saw the rape. Just how often do you think that is going to happen? Then there is the fear that if the woman can't find the necessary witnesses, that SHE will become the criminal instead of her violator.

So, yes, western society has its problems, but I'll take having options to being a victim.

Edit: Reference your rape comment.

Rape creates an especially difficult burden of proof for the victim. Shariah law only provides for punishment in cases of adultery, if both parties admit to have committed the "crime". If this is not the case, four independent witnesses have to be found; however, the witnesses must be male. In cases of rape, shariah rules that a rapist is to be punished with 100 lashes, if unmarried, or with death by stoning, if married, since this would then constitute adultery.

A pregnancy as a result of rape first of all counts as evidence of adultery committed by the woman. The rape victim then has to prove that she really was raped. In case the man - which is very likely - denies that he has raped the woman, the woman has to name four male witnesses to prove the rape. In case the woman does not find these four male witnesses - which again is very likely - she will be charged with slander.

For the crime of slander, shariah prescribes a punishment of 80 lashes. On top of that, the woman will be charged with adultery, and is thus threatened with the death penalty, if she is married. In case, she is unmarried, the "adultery" counts as immoral behaviour and is punished with 100 lashes. This is at least what the criminal code of January 2000 of the Nigerian state Zamfara says.

In the case of rape it may thus happen - and in most cases this is what seems to happen - that the victim has to prove that she was raped. And even, if one believes that we have the right to judge over the morality of someone else, the type of punishment, i.e. death by stoning, remains absolutely unacceptable in the west. Regardless of the fact that it should be the rapist who should be punished in the first place, and not vice versa.

Answer 3

You Muslims continue to amaze me with your deceptions.

Why don't you do a study on the rapes, beating of wives better yet, the honor killing of women in Muslim countries. Don't deny it happens because we know it does, we just can't get the correct stats on the phenomena due to the secretiveness so prevalent in the Muslim communities.


We don't deny problems in the US or other western countries, but we don't hide behind the deceit and skewed stats, which can be manipulated for a particular agendas which, in this case is anti west propaganda.

This is an exact example of why most of you sicken me, is there any of you out there that will ever tell the truth, as God said to Lot, just find me ten!

Answer 4

If women are happy in Islam, good for them.
My problem resides in the fact that surveys and statistics are either non-existent or not to be trusted in a lot of countries in the world, be it Christian, Muslim, Hindu, you name it.
So it's very easy to (mis)use statistics in more developed or open democratic societies to make a point.
For instance how many women were raped, stoned, mistreated in certain countries we will never know or these countries will just say it doesn't happen in their countries.
A good example is AIDS where in the beginning a lot of countries simply denied it even existed in theirs.
Got my point?

Answer 5

Where's the question. Sounds like a poorly written sermon. I don't see a point. You want to see harassment, come to the Middle East. A owman can 't even walk down the street without being harrassed. I hardly think the west has a corner on the harrassment market.

Answer 6

At least there are laws which attempt to protect American women from being brutalized, unlike Islam where it is perfectly legal and sanctioned by religious authority to brutalize the woman.

Although the point that you are attempting to make is not without some merit, but neither system seems to be flawless.

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Answer 7

Yes, we already know that American Liberal men can't keep their hands off the women they work with. What else is new?

Answer 8

How many are doctors or lawyers or even have an education ?

Answer 9

what do u care about Kafir women anyways, as long as muslim women are all safe and tucked away in their little homes thats all that counts.

Answer 10

I'm confused! This is not a question ! It is a statement!