ok so i bred my 4 year old female labrador x german shepherd with my 2 year old male golden retriever x staffy and she is due to have puppys in about like.. 2 days but last year my female dog (daisy) was diagnosed with elbow dysplasia and my male (boomer) has been swaying his hips, having problems walking and was showing signs of hip dysplasia.
boomer was showing these signs aprox 7 mths ago but i bred him and her because i didnt know what it was.
i was wondring, is elbow or hip dyplasia hereditory? i do hope not because i dont want the pupys to get it. my female doesnt have bad elbow dysplasia but its affecting her walking, running, getting up, going up and down stairs ect.
can anybody who has bred dogs before, give me some HELPFUL TIPS?
i have never bred before so i need a bit of help. i did not bye my dogs from a reputoble breeder but they did not screan the sire and ***** and that was ok wit me coz i didnt think they were gonna get it.the breeder had no health guarantee!!!!
2007-01-17
22:17:04
·
10 answers
·
asked by
Natalie xox
1
in
Pets
➔ Dogs
and i got my vet to do a ultra sound thing to see how many baby pupys she was going to have and it showed 7 pupys then i went back 2 weeks later and it shows 11? the first one was done 4 weeks after mating and then 2 weeks later so how many is she gonna have? i am so confised?
i asked my vet but she said that she wasnt going to help me any further because breeding dogs with dyplsia is very cruel? i dont understand? what if she needs a csection? who is gonna do it? i have been seeing that vet now for about 2 years so i was a bit confused how their clinic can take thousands of dollars from me over a 2 yr period but thy cant advise me on what to do when my female is preggos?
2007-01-17
22:20:36 ·
update #1
i bred because my vet didnt tell me if it was genetic.. she just said it was mild elbow dyplasia? i didnt know!!!
she is almost ready to give birth in maybe a week... i dont want these dogs to go to pounds with geentic diseases. i will keep a few but if she has 11... there is no way i can have them all.
i really dont want them to get what my dogs have.. its depressing.
is there anyway to abort the pupys now? i know its very mean to do that to living dogs but i cant make them be born into this world knowing they have a genetic diseases.
2007-01-17
22:28:31 ·
update #2
i never imagined this would happen! i will feel so terrable if i get rid of the puppies. i wouldnt sell them to owners without telling them that the mom has elbow dyplasia and the dad shows sigbns of hd.
i didnt know... i never would have bred but i didnt know of the serveruty of dysplasia.
the sire (golden retreiver) of the male were checked for hip and elbow dysplasia. and it was very low scores.
the dam (lab) of daisy was also negative and was checked for dysplasia and pra.
2007-01-17
22:32:08 ·
update #3
Are you serious? I can't believe anyone can be so stupid!!
If your ***** has these puppies, there is a good chance all the puppies will end up with serious defects. I hope your not intending to sell these puppies - if you do you could well be sued by the new owners when they discover what they've bought.
The defects will not be obvious at birth, so you might well sell these puppies only to have then returned at 12 months old.
Please tell me you're a Troll
2007-01-17 22:22:08
·
answer #1
·
answered by anwen55 7
·
5⤊
0⤋
Truthfully now, what were you trying to accomplish by breeding two mixed breed dogs? I'm really having trouble with that.
Just like everyone else has told you, the pups most likely will be stricken with these genetic diseases.
I can't explain WHY your vet would refuse to help you any further, but in all honesty, did you seek out your vet BEFORE you went to breed your dogs? One, that could be viewed as a slap in the face that you wouldn't consult first. And two, this kind of thing (backyard breeding) enrages people and perhaps she refuses to do any more because of the things she might say to you regarding it. Your vet didn't tell you that HD was hereditary because one, you didn't ask and two, how was your vet supposed to warn you about the risks if you don't talk to her.
This was really really a bad idea.
And another thing, you expect a breeder of mixed breed dogs to offer a health guarantee? That's silly.
Be up front with people that come to look at the puppies that you didn't know whawt you needed to know before breeding dogs like genetic defects. Then, TELL THEM about the HD and elbow issues you are seeing with the mom and dad. Be honest and ONLY ask a small amount to help cover shots for the puppies. I'm talking like $25. That's it. But be honest.
2007-01-18 00:15:46
·
answer #2
·
answered by LpYrBby 3
·
0⤊
0⤋
First of all you are not a breeder in any way if you don't even know that you should have your dogs genetically tested.
Also, you didn't just breed a mutt, but a REAL mutt. My dog is actually more purebred and I bought her for $100 from the shelter.
Your puppies will now have hip and elbow problems. The funny part is you are going to try and sell these puppies with these problems too! If they pay more than $100, they are suckers.
Get your pets spayed and do the world a favour.
2007-01-17 23:37:29
·
answer #3
·
answered by bpbjess 5
·
0⤊
0⤋
No, they would not be considered a purebred at all as they are produced from two cross-breeds. You cannot have either 'parent' registered legally therefore the pups will not have 'papers' You cannot prove that either dog is actually even a lab x shepHERD as all crossbreeds although similar will never have a 'breed type' and will vary. Basically, for so many reasons, they will be known as 'mutts' or 'crossbreeds' at best. So the answer is still 'no they will not be considered 'full bred' The expense of breeding just to produce pups with no breed etc - cheaper to have your female spayed and probably healthier for her too.
2016-03-29 02:53:56
·
answer #4
·
answered by Anonymous
·
0⤊
0⤋
Sorry mate looks like you got a raw deal all the way around. YES YES it is absolutely hereditary I'm sorry for the bad news but proper breeders pride themselves on HD and elbow dysplasia free lines. To be brutally honest you should desex both your dogs so they cannot breed the disease into any other lines if they should mate them by accident.
Your puppies should of course be checked but if i can remember correctly unless it is absolutely obvious at birth i think it is 7 months when you can get them xrayed to be sent of and measured to see how bad they are and they will get a score rating.
Look honestly if it is noticeable at birth you will not sell them and i would think it really unfair to sell them anyway without telling people about the potential disaster. Give them away and let people know if you cannot see them put to sleep but that really may be the best option otherwise some poor soul is going to end up with the same problems you have had all this time
Your vet also has no right to pass judgement remember it was you that got a raw deal from the beginning. Your vet has a duty of care that is by law on his behalf i would ring the vet assosciation and complain about him.
Anyway your dog will be due between 63-65 days from conception, she will start showing nesting behaviour her tempreture will drop a degree and she may start going into labour, keep the male away from her and let her have some peace and quiet. Leave her be but keep an eye on her, she will clean the puppies herself and does not need your interference. She may just well have 11 puppies and it will probably go all night or all day.
Signs to watch : if she is straining for more than 1 hour she needs immediate vet attention, If she starts to shake uncontrollably she needs immediate vet attention (May happen a few days later, THis is problem call Hypocalcaemia, low low calcium and usually sky rocket temperature, get her on Puppy food NOW if you havent already and keep her on it until puppies are weaned), The labour may go for a while but the pushing should not please keep your vets number on standby in case you need to ring and ask questions, he must provide you with a duty of care his opinions are not required. Get mum and all puppies checked with 48 hours of delivery to make sure she is ok and your puppies are ok.
Good luck, my email is available let me know how you go.
She should be fine with passing them all by herself as many dogs have done it but please be home with her and any doubts ring the vet
Good Luck
P.S way to late to abort
2007-01-17 22:27:51
·
answer #5
·
answered by Anonymous
·
4⤊
0⤋
First of all you shouldn't have bred them regardless, they are not purebred dogs, there are lots of mixed breed dogs @ the pound. Secondly if you didn't have homes set up before you bred, you shouldn't have bred.
Frankly I don't blame your veterinarian for not wanting to continue helping you, you have been extremely irresponsible with breeding your dogs.
Hip & elbow dysplasia are very genetic, if you didn't know this you shouldn't be breeding dogs.
Next time do your homework before doing something like this!
Also I would start looking for a new vet in case you do run into any kind of problems with labor.
2007-01-18 00:19:05
·
answer #6
·
answered by KATHY 1
·
1⤊
0⤋
oh my goodness!!!!! why would u breed dogs with CLEAR genetic disabilities!!!! i hope to god that u warn the poor people who u sell these dogs to that they will have to spend thousands upon thousands of dollars on their new pups!!!!! i understand that u just want real help, but honestly, people are more inclined to tell u that what u r doing is WRONG!!!!!! maybe u would enjoy my question on backyard breeders!!??
dont u know how many dogs like this end up in shelters??!!! and if ur vet said he/she wasnt going to help u anymore because breeding ur dogs was cruel then how did u not know it was genetic!!?? and if u were thinking of breeding how could u not know that!!!!!!????? breeders know these types of things! u should fee bad because it is SI irrisponsible to do what u have done! u now have 2 x breed parents who r going to suffer and 11 new lives who have to suffer and will probably end up in shelters being euthenised because no one will b able to afford the vet bills.
im sorry if u think im being rude, but this REALLY upsets me. its a disgusting thing to do to bring more dogs like this into the world. dont u know how many helpless shelter dogs there r out there b'cos of backyard breeders like u who r just too irrisponsible? i see them EVER DAY and my heart gets broken EVERY DAY!!!!
2007-01-18 00:13:52
·
answer #7
·
answered by Anonymous
·
0⤊
0⤋
Why are you breeding these cross breed dogs? There is bits of every breed in them the pups will be of no particular breed with health problems etc, who is going to take these pups once they are able to leave their mother? I dont think many people would want a dog that is 4 different types of breed.
2007-01-17 22:24:37
·
answer #8
·
answered by its_beautiful_me 2
·
3⤊
0⤋
Yes it is genetic.. You will pass down to all those pups.. Why are you breeding mutts? and not just mutts, but BIG dogs that will just end up in the pound!
People like you make me so mad..BYB
2007-01-17 22:24:17
·
answer #9
·
answered by Mommadog 6
·
5⤊
0⤋
there are exceptions for everything.........get the dog spayed now, and save everybody from a lot of heartaches, and pain.
2007-01-17 23:18:25
·
answer #10
·
answered by amccoy1962 6
·
0⤊
0⤋