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If so, do you truly believe in that whole E-meter, Xenu, Dianetics stuff?

2007-01-17 08:22:17 · 19 answers · asked by madjennyvane 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

I mean no disrepect to anyone who is a scientologist. I am just curious as to the belief system... it just sounds more like a self-help program than a religion. I am only concerned because religions, in America, are tax-free. Scientology sounds more like a company... a spirit strengthening company... like going to a gym.

2007-01-17 09:23:34 · update #1

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Yes I am.
No I do not.
The workability of Dianetics to handle unwanted conditions that are caused by the Reactive Mind is not something you have to "believe" in . You simply have to learn what it is and how to do it and then apply it to observe or experience the results for your self. (Or not)
The E Meter is just a tool, something you use to measure something, like any other meter. It does nothing unless you know how to use it and what it measures.
These are just 2 things, parts of Scientology . There are many other parts to the subject.
However, there isn't anything in Scientology that you are asked to believe.
It's not that kind of religion. There is no faith involved.
Here is a description of what it is:
Scientology is an applied religious philosophy. When I say "applied" I mean you actually use it in your life to change or improve existing conditions. It is a very practical religion.
All religions if you learn about them have a basic philosphy, but they also have certain dogma, rituals and observances, and a certain faith or belief is required. There is nothing wrong with this, but Scientology is not that kind of religion. It does not intrude on anyones faiths of beliefs particularly in the area of God , the Supreme Being, or the Infinite. This area is left totally up to the indivdual, which is why you can be a practicing Jew,for example and still use and apply the priniciples of Scientology in your life. It does not conflict. If anything it will enhance your understanding of your chosen religious practice.
You can have no specific religious beliefs and still benefit from using it.
And it is only true for you according to your own observation and experience with it.
It is a non denominational religion . The dictionary definition that applies:
Religion: The spiritual or emotional attitude of one who recognises the existence of superhuman power or powers.

The most basic principle of Scientology is that YOU are your own immortal soul, that this is not a "thing" you HAVE but what YOU actually are.
The whole purpose of Scientology is to increase an individual's understanding and awareness of himself. and lifeAnd thereby his native abilities .
When you do this the sphere and zone of his positive influence increases and moves outward into his life, his family ,his friends, his groups and mankind which he is part of.

How this result is achieved is the "technology" of Scientology, which was developed by L.Ron Hubbard after his extensive research and the discoveries he made, about the human spirit. The basic religious philosophy and knowledge of Scientology is very old, going back 10,000 years at least to the Veda or Vedic Hymns from the East. L. Ron Hubbard researched and made new discoveries about the human spirit. He developed technology from these discoveries to apply to increase spiritual awareness and ability.
He completed his research before his death in 1986 and left all of his results and copyrights
to the Church of Scientology along with most of his considerable personal estate, when he died.

He published a book in 1951 to communicate the basic principles he discovered called: " Scientology The Fundementals of Thought"
There are currently over 10 million Scientologists in more than 163 countries world wide. However we are a new religion, only 53 years old.
The true story of Scientology as a religion goes like this:
1. A philosopher developes a philosophy about life and death.
2. People find it interesting.
3. People find it works.
4. People pass it along to others.
5. It grows.

This is just an overview.
L. Ron Hubbard explained fully the theology and technologies of Scientology in more than 500,000 pages of writings, including dozens of books and over 2,000 tape-recorded public lectures.

As for the other "whole" thing you mentioned..... that is not Scientology.

Why are you asking this question.....? I get the feeling that my response is not what you were hoping for, but that's OK.
It's an honest answer and I am a Scientologist so I do at least know the subject and am experienced with it.
(That doesn't seem to count on this particular forum , anyone here can decide to be an authority on anything it seems)

2007-01-17 09:11:09 · answer #1 · answered by thetaalways 6 · 1 3

I'm not, but I understand that they aren't taught the Xenu stuff until they reach the highest level of teachings. Since it takes a lot of time, effort, and money to reach that level, very few of them ever read about Xenu.

Assuming they still teach it at all. It's been "outted" for years now, so I sometimes wonder if they didn't just quietly burn all the silly-sounding Xenu writings.

2007-01-17 08:26:04 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

I am not a scientologist and cannot fathom scientology being real at all due to the fact that it was written by a science fiction writer, and rich people love scientology because it makes them "gods".

2007-01-17 08:29:57 · answer #3 · answered by Soon2BMommy 3 · 1 1

No way - - who in their right might would follow that mess? I mean seriously. I respect different points of view on many things, but I draw the line with that religion. Have you read what hell Tom Cruise put poor Katie Holmes through during her pregnancy?

2007-01-17 08:27:43 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

it incredibly is incorrect to assert that people developed from monkeys. people developed from the kinfolk of the great apes, and apes are no longer monkeys. Primates bypass lower back some 50 million years. look for recommendation from a timeline for the shape of primates to get a good suggestion of the evolutionary technique.

2016-12-14 03:07:08 · answer #5 · answered by apollon 3 · 0 0

Hell no I'm not.....I don't have time to work my way up in a religion.......kinda like Catholosism in my opinion....I don't have time to study just to join a religion......what's the point of taking tests to join a religion anyway?

2007-01-17 08:27:00 · answer #6 · answered by s_h_a_r_k_k_y 4 · 0 1

I'm not only the President of the Hair Club for Men, I'm also a client.

2007-01-17 08:25:01 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

No... and I'll tell you why... Scientology is DANGEROUS. Here's the scoop on this cult (yes, it's a cult) and after you've read it, I'm sure you'll understand why I would never be a Scientologist:

Scientology, which questionably calls itself a new "religion", is the brainchild of science fiction writer and occult enthusiast L. Ron Hubbard. The organization claims to be able to help rid members of any and all mental constraints including but not limited to emotional scarring (from this and "past" lives) due to "engrams" (past negative experiences stored in our unconscious mind), psychological disorders and chemical imbalances (the solution is to convince members that these things don't actually exist) & drug dependence (including legally prescribed psychopharmaceuticals which counteract the effects of psychological disorders Scientologists believe to be nonexistent).

The official Scientology organization is composed of a number of “levels”. One begins as a “preclear” and works their way up. One must purchase virtually every service crucial to advancement directly from the "church" and at staggering prices. "Auditing", for example, is purchased in 12.5-hour blocks, costing anywhere from $750 for introductory sessions to between $8,000 & $9,000 for advanced sessions. Visit this link to see how $380,000 is a conservative estimate for the total cost of moving all the way up the Scientology hierarchal ladder: http://www.xenu.net/archive/prices.html These are the total costs for auditing alone: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_as_a_business#Costs
Here’s an explanation of what “auditing” is: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061224182319AA2nnd6

At level OT III (Operating Thetan 3), some very strange and fiercely guarded secrets are imparted upon worthy members who have paid enough money to advance to such a level (and no, this isn't a joke): the evil alien ruler Xenu killed a lot of aliens (Thetans) from around the universe by kidnapping them, bringing them to earth in golden DC-8 “space-planes” & blowing them up inside volcanoes with hydrogen bombs. Scientologists believe the souls of these aliens (these souls are "Body Thetans") were captured, brainwashed and released; they then attached themselves to our ancestors (who passed them all the way down to us) & cause many of our mental & physical ills to this day. Auditing is said to “clear” us of these Body Thetans as well as the “mental implants” they supposedly impose on our minds. http://sf.irk.ru/www/ot3/spaink-ot3.html http://xenu.net/archive/leaflet/Xenu-Letter.pdf

Scientology has taken a very hostile stance towards psychiatry & psychiatric drugs irrespective of the fact that some people require medication to remain adequately functional in everyday life. The “church” has been known to withhold prescription pharmaceuticals from member (with deadly results). Suspiciously, it was discovered upon Hubbard’s death that the anti-anxiety drug hydroxyzine (Vistaril®) was present in his body, which several of his assistants would later attest was only one of many psychiatric & pain medications Hubbard ingested over the years. http://www.clambake.org/archive/ronthenut/16.gif
(visit this link to read about the uses of hydroxyzine: http://www.drugs.com/mtm/v/vistaril.html )

To be blunt, Scientology is a cult. It employs semi-legitimate psychotherapy and self-help methods to keep people loyal & convinced of its merit while it simultaneously sucks them dry financially and attempts to keep them far away from ANYONE, even friends and family, who would dissuade them from remaining in such a harmful situation. It’s a particularly greedy as well as manipulative & dangerous cult that takes its anti-psychiatry fanaticism to deadly limits. See this link for more information: http://www.lisamcpherson.org/

2007-01-17 08:56:11 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

Dush bags

2007-01-17 08:26:20 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

I can't go there, I still have some working brain cells.

2007-01-17 08:34:09 · answer #10 · answered by comicards 6 · 0 1

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