According to the Mormons, you need a passport from Joseph Smith in order to be with God and Christ in Heaven.
"...no man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith.
From the day that the Priesthood was taken from the earth to the winding-up scene of all things, every man and woman must have the certificate of Joseph Smith, junior, as a passport to their entrance into the mansion where God and Christ are I with you and you with me.
I cannot go there without his consent.
He holds the keys of that kingdom for the last dispensation the keys to rule in the spirit-world; and he rules there triumphantly, for he gained full power and a glorious victory over the power of Satan while he was yet in the flesh, and was a martyr to his religion and to the name of Christ, which gives him a most perfect victory in the spirit-world.
He reigns there as supreme a being in his sphere, capacity, and calling, as God does in heaven.
Many will exclaim "Oh, that is very disagreeable! It is preposterous!
We cannot bear the thought!"
But it is true...
...It is his mission to see that all the children of men in this last dispensation are saved, that can be, through the redemption.
You will be thankful, every one of you, that Joseph Smith, junior, was ordained to this great calling before the worlds were."
Remarks by President BRIGHAM YOUNG,
delivered in the Tabernacle, Great Salt Lake City, October 9, 1859.
Journal of Discourses, Vol. 7, p.282-91
2007-01-17 14:16:26
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answered by kirstycristy 3
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I would hope you have done everything you need to be saved by that point (although I realize that is a difficult accomplishment). Therefore, I would hope you had been trying to do what you can, and if you are a good person, and you accept the Lord (and all that comes along with it), then you will probably be fine (saved). However, I don't think anyone really can say for anyone else, as Christ will be the judge.
At a more finite level, in the Mormon faith it is believed that certain ordinances must be done to obtain "salvation", but whether or not anyone has actually done these will likely be a non-issue assuming the above (first para.) is correct.
2007-01-17 16:25:45
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answered by straightup 5
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First of all... to KristyChristy... there you go with your absurdities again. A passport from Joseph Smith? Please, don't make stuff up! 3 minutes isn't very long... it depends what you mean by "saved". My first answer would be to call 911... Then I would ask how you can live for exactly 3 more minutes, but not die immediately?
Use those three minutes to tell your children, relatives, etc to join the church and then they can be baptized for you in the temple and other ordinances after they have received temple recommends.
And if you've been hit by a dump truck with 3 minutes to live, how do you expect to get your answers from Y!A? lol
Also, to Pinkadot:
You are usually pretty accurate, but you have one thing I want to point out: Exaltation is only the highest state of the Celestial Kingdom. There is no other exaltation in other kingdoms; you cannot be "Exalted to the telestial kingdom." Other than that, very good though!
2007-01-19 17:45:22
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answered by Beast8981 5
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3 mintues....mmm...that's a tough one.
A lot depends on your view of "saved" and how you had lived your life thus far.
Looking at it from a Mormon point of view and being the "judge" which thank heavens I really am not...
My opinion:
Let's say you lived a wonderful, righteous life. You attended church, you kept the commandments as closely as possible and loved your Savior. You may or may not have been baptized. You die. You most likely would go to spirit prison where you could be taught the gospel...your "saving ordinances" would be performed for you after you die...and let's say you accept the gospel. You would then most likely move to spirit paradise or continue to teach those in spirit prison...until the millenium where you would most likely live and then await the judgement and depending on when your "chance" to accept the gospel was you would, in my opinion either go to the Terrestrial or maybe Celestial Kingdom. Terrestrial exaltation would result from you having the chance on earth to accept the gospel, you didn't, but then accepted it after this life. Celestial reward would mean you never had the chance here on earth but accepted its fulness after this life...
It is sort of deep.
Now, let's say you lived a very unrighteous life, giving in to all manner of sin and never repenting, never loving or knowing your Savior...you die. You go to spirit prison. You do not accept the gospel or the ordinances that are performed by proxy for you. You await the final judgement and resurrection. You would most likely be exalted in the Telestial Kingdom which is the lowest. There is no family unit, no chance for progression, no higher exaltion...and no companionship of God the Father or Jesus Christ.
Now, those are the two extremes. There are so many variances as to the outcome. That is why believe of salvation or "saved" as a future event and not one that can be realized in this lifetime.
****ON Kristy's remarks - yes I am sure Joseph will help be a "judge" in my opinion he is second in line to Jesus Christ. I believe part of that can be taken as we must have a testimony of Joseph Smith or the religion we live has no point or grounds.
2007-01-18 13:29:41
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answered by Anonymous
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Watch the traffic next time you cross the road.
There is no such thing as immediate repentance.
Now seriously, your suggestion could be compare to people who never know about the gospel. People do not know about the Gospel will have a chance in the spirit world,I am sure God will be just and fair at your judgement.
Concerning "Saved", when Jesus Christ died for us and resurrected, he already save everyone, bad or good, from physical death and from the transgression of Adam.
2007-01-17 16:37:05
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answered by Wahnote 5
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Call 911.
2007-01-17 15:42:33
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answered by Anonymous
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Well, you can't be baptized before you die, so you will have to accept a baptism done on your behalf at a later time. And about 80 million rules...
2007-01-17 15:43:42
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answered by Anonymous
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Nothing. Your relatives can do it for you after your dead....and believe me they will.
Mormons have what they call "baptisms for the dead" so all the people in their family tree who are long departed can join them in the "Kingdom of Heaven". (Too bad for all those who don't have a birth record).
2007-01-17 15:48:42
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answered by chuck 3
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What's the question?
2007-01-17 15:41:58
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answered by kasandra k 4
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choose the left
2007-01-17 15:42:17
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answered by Jae Lynn 4
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