Atheists what Do you think ??

Question

Serious comments Pls.

I asked this Q before

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Answer 1

Zajil, I'm not trying to offend, but the "order" that you see in the universe is highly subjective.

When you look at a meadow, do you say "Oh, what a well-ordered meadow! The blades are all pretty much the same length! A higher intelligence must have crafted each blade to be that height!"

No, you realize (hopefully) that the grass is all pretty much the same length because the sun gives so much energy and no more, the rainfall in that area gives a certain amount of nutrients, the breed of grass seed reaches a set height median, and so forth.

If even one of those factors were different (brighter sun, less rain, a different grass seed), the grass would all be a foot shorter and you'd still be saying what "amazing order" the grass had to all be that exact height!

The universe is not "orderly" or "disorderly". It simply is. It is uniform throughout because the same physical laws that apply to one side apply equally to the other. Anything more is just human imagination.

Answer 2

you have a very messy system, i couldn't find out where to answer the original question and how it would actually be read so i'll do it here:

An organized universe doesn't need a creator. You just seem to beleive that the only reason there is any sense of order in the world is because someone made it that way. Your proof of this is you think thigns are messy when humans aren't involved. This is a very limited view and in fact evidence would suggest that order is the natural state of things. There is no need to equate order with a creator.

Do we go looking for a "duck-maker" when we see a duck, a ordered complex creature in our world? Things develop, in the case of our world things developed over time and grew in complexity as a natural result, responding to their own environment. This doesn't require a creator merely an environment to inspire change.

Answer 3

organization can seemingly materialize from nothing using random algorithms under a pretext of particular rules. The apparent "organization" of the universe is due to all of the matter in the universe being governed by the same rules. For instance: if you were to drop a rock into a pond, you will see ripples or waves uniformly radiating out from the epicenter of the impact. Now, go to a different pond and drop a different rock into the pond. What happens? something very similar to the first example. Different pond, different rock and different water all governed by the same rules of physics all lead to a very similar, very re-creatable organized reaction.

Answer 4

Congratulations. You've just proved that Muslims can ask the same buffoonish, ill-informed questions that Christian think make themselves look clever.

When I thought I would tackle some of the BS peddled around in the name of religion, I sat down and read scripture and every refutation of what I believed I can find. I suggest you take the same trouble to argue against what you think is wrong before passing this sort of thing off as intelligent debate.

Answer 5

What exactly is so "well organized" about the universe? It looks kind of like a slipshod job to me. I mean, making stars big enough to actually destroy themselves out of existence? Deadly bursts of gamma rays all over the place? And such an inefficient method for stellar recreation? F- on the assignment there, god.

Answer 6

I think you, and many others, look at the complexity and enormity of our universe, and it scares you. You can't possibly imagine it without the purpose, and protection, provided by some governing deity.
I think that is a very human response, which I simply don't share.
That's what I think.

Answer 7

You can either learn about the universe (science), be fine with not understanding it, or just say a wizard did it.

If you have science (physics) questions, this isn't the place to post them.

Answer 8

I think if you REALLY understood science, you wouldnt beleive this crap about Allah/God.

Ordered universe huh? Ask me in about a billion years when the sun goes supernova on us and destroys Mercury, Venus, Earth, and Mars...

Answer 9

You may want to buy an astronomy textbook. And no, the Quran doesn't count. Read the context around your quotes...

Answer 10

I think that my glasses may be a little bit strong in the left eye.