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2007-01-16 17:43:14 · 15 answers · asked by BushSupporter 2 in Politics & Government Military

15 answers

Nope...TA for the two points

2007-01-16 18:13:39 · answer #1 · answered by TheWeeKiwi 3 · 4 1

Do I think President Bush is a draft dodger? No, and here's why:

1) President Bush is now too old to be drafted
2) There is currently no draft in effect, therefore no draft to dodge

Therefore, he cannot now be a draft dodger.

Or, perhaps you were thinking in the past tense? So let's alter the question slightly -- Do I think President Bush was a draft dodger? Once again, no, and here's why:

1) During Vietnam, he was not the President.
2) He signed up for and served in the Air National Guard.
3) having signed up, and served, and been trained as a pilot, and made the required number of flight hours to remain qualified, he could not possibly have dodged the draft, because he was ALREADY A MEMBER OF THE MILITARY, AND THEREFORE NOT SUBJECT TO THE DRAFT.
4) In case you hadn't realized it yet, the "documents" that Dan Rather obtained showing that "Dubya" did not serve his required time were FAKES.

Therefore, "Dubya" was not a draft doger then, either.

So, the answer to your ignorant, inflammatory question is a resounding NO. And your implication that serving in the Reserves or Guard was a means of dodging the draft is an insult to every Reservist and Guardsman who has ever served his nation. Go crawl back into your pit of ooze, troll!

2007-01-17 10:27:41 · answer #2 · answered by Dave_Stark 7 · 1 0

You are either a draft dodger or you are not. Bush is not. He was in the Air National Guard, that is more than a draft dodger could say.

2007-01-17 02:06:42 · answer #3 · answered by Curt 4 · 6 0

No. He was never drafted so your question is inaccurate. And he did serve in the Texas Air National Guard...why do people still bring this up?

By the way my draft number in during Vietnam was 14 and served in the Army after college.

2007-01-17 04:25:48 · answer #4 · answered by iraq51 7 · 2 0

Since he was never drafted, it is impossible for him to be a draft dodger.

2007-01-17 07:51:19 · answer #5 · answered by zombiefighter1988 3 · 2 0

How can he dodge when he served... Interesting concept.

2007-01-20 20:33:56 · answer #6 · answered by eldertrouble 3 · 0 0

No. He is a great American patriot, which is more than I can say for you.

2007-01-17 03:04:39 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

Dan Rather is that you?

I thought we put this stuff to bed a long time ago.

2007-01-17 01:54:48 · answer #8 · answered by C B 6 · 4 2

Yes, he was the spoiled brat of a rich man, so he didn't have to go to college overseas, or Canada, etc. No one in my family got drafted, they enlisted.

2007-01-17 02:00:46 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 8

No

First off, Bush was never drafted so how can he doddge something that never came his way? hmm. answer that liberals.

Second, Bush did serve in the armed forces. The Air National Guard.
Bush may have received favorable treatment to get "into" the Guard, served irregularly after the spring of 1972 and got an expedited discharge, but he did accumulate the days of service required of him for his ultimate honorable discharge.

George W. Bush applied to join the Texas Air National Guard on May 27, 1968, less than two weeks before he graduated from Yale University. The country was at war in Vietnam, and at that time, just months after the bloody Tet Offensive, an estimated 100,000 Americans were on waiting lists to join Guard units across the country. Bush was sworn in on the day he applied

The younger Bush fulfilled two years of active duty and completed pilot training in June 1970. During that time and in the two years that followed, Bush flew the F-102, an interceptor jet equipped with heat-seeking missiles that could shoot down enemy planes. His commanding officers and peers regarded Bush as a competent pilot and enthusiastic Guard member.

On or around his 27th birthday, July 6, 1972, Bush did not take his required annual medical exam at his Texas unit. As a consequence, he was suspended from flying military jets. Bush spokesperson Dan Bartlett told Georgemag.com: "You take that exam because you are flying, and he was not flying. The paperwork uses the phrase 'suspended from flying,' but he had no intention of flying at that time."

Some media reports have speculated that Bush took and failed his physical, or that he was grounded as a result of substance abuse. Bush's vagueness on the subject of his past drug use has only abetted such rumors. Bush's commanding officer in Texas, however, denies the charges. "His flying status was suspended because he didn't take the exam,not because he couldn't pass," says Hodges. Asked whether Bush was ever disciplined for using alcohol or illicit drugs, Hodges replied: "No."

On September 5, Bush wrote to then-Colonel Jerry Killian at his original unit in Texas, requesting permission to serve with the 187th Tactical Reconnaisance Group, another Alabama-based unit. "This duty would be for the months of September, October, and November," wrote Bush.

His request was approved: 10 days later, the Alabama Guard ordered Bush to report to then-Lieutenant Colonel William Turnipseed at Dannelly Air Force Base in Montgomery on October 7th and 8th. The memo noted that "Lieutenant Bush will not be able to satisfy his flight requirements with our group," since the 187th did not fly F-102s.

Bush did make up the time he missed during the summer and autumn of 1972. One is an April 23, 1973 order for Bush to report to annual active duty training the following month; the other is an Air National Guard statement of days served by Bush that is torn and undated but contains entries that correspond to the first. Taken together, they appear to establish that Bush reported for duty on nine occasions between November 29, 1972-when he could have been in Alabama-and May 24, 1973. Bush still wasn't flying, but over this span, he did earn nine points of National Guard service from days of active duty and 32 from inactive duty. When added to the 15 so-called "gratuitous" points that every member of the Guard got per year, Bush accumulated 56 points, more than the 50 that he needed by the end of May 1973 to maintain his standing as a Guardsman.

On May 1, Bush was ordered to report for further active duty training, and documents show that he proceeded to cram in another 10 sessions over the next two months. Ultimately, he racked up 19 active duty points of service and 16 inactive duty points by July 30-which, added to his 15 gratuitous points, achieved the requisite total of 50 for the year ending in May 1974.

On October 1, 1973, First Lieutenant George W. Bush received an early honorable discharge so that he could attend Harvard Business School. He was credited with five years, four months and five days of service toward his six-year service obligation.

Now to the Liberals Favorite President...
Bill Clinton (A.K.A. Slick Willy)

Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 8, 1964, accepting all contractual conditions of registering for the draft. Given Selective Service Number 3 26 46 228.

Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964

Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20, 1968

Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July 28, 1969

Bill Clinton dishonors order to report and is not inducted into the military

Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States Army Reserves on August 07,1969 under authority of Colonel E. Holmes.

Bill Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of enlistment

Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at the University of Arkansas ROTC, September 1969

Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on October 30, 1969, as enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Colonel E. Holmes and

Bill Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40 (2)(a) "registrant who has failed to report...remain liable for induction"

Bill Clinton's birth date lottery number is 311, drawn December 1, 1969, but anyone who has already been ordered to report for induction, is INELIGIBLE!

Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40

Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General (1976), while a fugitive from justice

All these facts come from Freedom of Information requests, public laws, and various books that have been published, and have not been refuted by Clinton.

2007-01-17 01:57:07 · answer #10 · answered by CG-23 Sailor 6 · 6 2

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