Sometimes they are the complete opposite.
According to God, the homosexual will end up in hell. According to laws of my country, discrimination based on sexual preference is not allowed, and a guy like Fred Phelps with his 'God hates fags' sign will end up in jail.
And I can make a long list of other examples here. I don't feel like discussing this particular example, the example is to show the point and was the first thing that came to mind.
I was just wondering, and being genuinly interested here: As a Christian or Muslim, isn't it confusing to live in a world where a lot of laws simply contradict God's laws?
And as a non-Christian or non-Muslim, isn't it annoying to fully live according to the laws of your country, and still be pointed out as a sinner by somebody else's God?
2007-01-16 15:35:20 · 17 answers · asked by ? 6 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
This is a good question.
The Bible specifically says to obey that laws of your country unless they're in opposition to God's teachings. It's that simple.
Here's the deal. Everyone that is "saved", "born again," etc. is still a sinner, and still does things that would normally warrant God's justice. But the difference, is that now we've been forgiven.
Check this out: We STILL continue to sin, and God corrects us. Generally, He doesn't have us deal with all of our sins at once, but He slowly "transforms" us over time. Would you be surprised to learn that there are Christian homosexuals? Yep... a few in my church, and those I know I count as friends. They are loved by God, just as I am. I personally believe the Bible when it calls homosexuality a sin, but how can I possibly condemn someone for that when my life is so full of sin too? (and all Christians are sinners, believe me).
The point is, Christ transforms us, and all we have to do is allow it to happen. That's why as Christians, we're to love everyone, despite where they come from.
I mean, who can possibly be perfect?
To revise a stupid statement lately, let me say this: "God loves fags." God loves sinners. God even loves me for some reason.
2007-01-16 15:44:07 · answer #1 · answered by Peter B 4 · 5⤊ 0⤋
Well, as for the religious part of it:
In the Bible, it talks about respecting the government you are under. I would say to follow God's laws (no brainer), but make sure that you are within the laws of the country as much as possible. I guess what the standard religious reply would be something to the effect of: do not let the laws of the earthly governments get in the way of doing God's work.
As far as the non-religious response:
I have gone back and forth between believing in religion and not. Even when I have been religious, I have always hated others pointing out the problems in my life; almost nothing makes me angrier quicker. I think that once religious people realise that they cannot shove thier religion down the throats of others, they will have a better response to their message.
2007-01-16 15:52:03 · answer #2 · answered by Death of Reason 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
According to God, homosexuality is not natural, and therefore not good in his eyes - It will make you ill; it will completely nullify the whole idea of the circle of life.
As far as law goes, there will be no controversy between a Christian following the laws of our City and also being in line with the teachings of Scriptures. If some guy is walking around with a sign that he obviously made to try to incite a riot, he should get picked up by the police.
I am Christian, and I also am a person who does not carry a sign around to piss people off. I have better things to do.
If a law is passed that will in anyway make it illegal for me to worship God, to pray, to raise my children with the knowledge and teachings of Christ, then there will be a very very big problem, and yep, I would not be able to concur.
2007-01-16 15:51:02 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
There are many specific variations, so I want to be general. A godly country would want to elect godly leaders who follow the laws of God. So, that if you are following the laws of God, you end up following the laws of the country.
However, man is not naturally good, so we vary from God's ways. In a situation where God differs from country, the Bible has proven time against time that we should follow him and NOT the ungodly government.
2007-01-16 15:44:45 · answer #4 · answered by >;-;< 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
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2016-05-23 23:01:18 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
"...and a guy like Fred Phelps with his 'God hates fags' sign...."
since when did God say people can go out and spread His message with harshness? Showing harshness and hostility won't make anyone want to listen.
just because you follow the laws of your land doesn't mean you HAVE to become best friends with anyone who is homosexual.
2007-01-16 16:30:58 · answer #6 · answered by Twizzle 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yes, it is annoying. But my religion says that we are to follow the laws of the land we live in, as well. Then again, my religion also does not teach that people are going to burn in hell. Homosexuality isn't a sin. (sodomy is, but that's a different story) So I guess the laws of my religion don't really conflict with the laws of the land...unless it was commanded by the US that we all have to eat pork for breakfast and cheeseburgers for lunch and shrimp for dinner....
2007-01-16 15:43:25 · answer #7 · answered by LadySuri 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
It is not necessesarily exclusive of each other.
I mean, you can believe in God, and still stay within the boundaries of law of a country.
If you believe God's law means that homosexuals have to go to hell (and I do NOT agree!) then, that is your belief. But, either way, you don't have to hate those people who hold other beliefs.
The neat thing is, you do not have to follow someone else's beliefs in order to be a good citizen of your country. But, neither do you have to go around making inflamatory statements.
2007-01-16 15:45:56 · answer #8 · answered by kiwi 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The law of the country, except the denial of God.
Obedience to the law of the country maintains order, which is pleasing to God. But denial of God means the collapse of all things.
2007-01-16 15:44:43 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
No it is not annoying.
Using your example;
If you can show me where the Bible says YOU should discriminate against sexual preferance then you have a contradiction.
Rom 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but [rather] give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance [is] mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
P.S. I am not a Christian, Muslam or homosexual
2007-01-16 16:10:17 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋