Here is why Christianity has NOT killed more than atheist or war combined.?

Question

The top three largest examples are thought to be the Crusades of the Middle Ages, the Spanish Inquisition, and the burning of witches. These three events, totaling over 264,000 killed, are thought to be the largest atrocities perpetrated by one or another form of Christendom.

According to University of Hawaii
political scientist Rudolph J. Rummel,1 the total number killed in all of human history is
estimated to be about 284,638,000. Of that number, 151,491,000 were killed during the
past 100 years. The single largest killer in all of human history is, by far, atheistic
Communism with a total of 110,000,000 … over 1/3 of all people ever killed! If we add
to that number just two other regimes where religion of any sort was strongly
discouraged, Nazi Germany and Nationalist China, the number rises to 141,160,000.
Almost 50% of all the killings in human history were committed in the past 100 years by
regimes that either actively promoted atheism or strongly discouraged religion. We have
not considered the over one billion abortions, where Christianity seems to be particularly
unwelcome. When the murders of history are tallied up, it is very clear that atheism is the
most dangerous philosophy ever embraced by humanity. The most effective restraint on
mankind's inherently evil tendencies is faith in God through Jesus Christ, a faith that
actually follows the teachings and commands of Jesus Christ as a daily way of life.

And the question is: why do people believe otherwise? To justify their sin?

See my last question for all you who think Hitler was Christian

And Girl WOnder, the sourse is the University of Hawaii, clearly stated.

Answer 1

You still offer us no source for this incredibly dubious "information." Until you do so, I will not accept it.

Give us a link to a reputable news site or other source. For all we know, you could be completely making this up.

Answer 2

so you are saying that 264,000 killed is an acceptable number because it is so much lower than the rest of the combined crimes.

and you only use 3 examples of Christian murder. the inquisition did not keep very good records, niether did they keep records of how many that Joshua killed when he took the "holy land" (isreal)
by might of arms from the Palistinians. he was directed to kill every man woman and child, and i doubt they counted.

furthermore the Native American Genocide is not well documented. Just like the ammount of Pagan Europeans that were killed off for their land, or in attempts at forcing a change in their religious views.

and even today the so called "other Wars" have Christian men behind them.

Hitler quoted the Bible on several occasions, and was raised Jewish before converting because of his mother's strict, (and possibly psychotic) teachings.

George W constantly refrences his Christian faith, while he is pushing a war that a large majority of this country never wanted to fight, and does not wish to continue.,,and he lied to get us there in the first place.

the religion is not just the Pope and the bishops. it is every man that has people that believe what he says. you can talk of True Christians all you want. but i do not see many of the so called "true" christians standing up for the rights of everyone on the planet. they will fight hard to have their beliefs put into law. but they will stand by and watch the rights of others be trampled, and chalk it up to "they are ungodly anyway, they do not matter untill they convert."

Answer 3

I find it amusing that these numbers only consider the crusades and various inquisitions an official part of religious abominations. For hundreds of years Kings have waged wars to protect their "divine rights" granted to them by the Catholic Church. The author of this little quote blissfully ignores the obvious -- every century since Rome converted to Christianity all killing by the hands of the state were backed by and directed by Christianity until the idea of the separation of church and state was able to be implemented (the 1700's). Every war from Constantine's armies through the Dark Ages, the Renaissances and up to the establishment of the separation of church and state should be calculated as religious killing, from Roman incursions to the slaughter of the Incas and on.

Adding Nazi's to the atheist list demonstrates the author has no clue about history, and his numbers should be treated with suspicion in the least. Here's a sample from the horse mouth (translated). The following is from Nazi propaganda title: "The Educational Principles of the New Germany" and it is only one small example of the religious (not atheist) nature of the Nazi's

"Life comes from God and returns to God. All life and all races follow God's ordinances. No people and no race can ignore them. We want the German youth to again recognize the religious nature of life. They must realize that God wants the individual as well as the whole people, and that they lose contact with life when they lose contact with God! God and nation are the two foundations of the life of the individual and the community. We want no shallow and superficial piety, but rather a deep faith that God guides the world, that he controls it, and a consciousness of the relationship between God and each individual, and between God and the live of the people and the fatherland. The National Socialist state will promote such a deeply religious educational system. We want parents to support and strengthen this by honesty and by good example."
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/frau01.htm

Besides the slaughtering of native peoples that wouldn't convert, we mustn't leave out the slaves kidnapped and shipped oversees by request of these Christian governments.

Answer 4

I checked some of your facts, and I am shocked to find the accuracy in them, but that being said....
I'm a Christian, and I've noticed that we have more atheist visitors to this forum than we do Christian - which is interesting in itself, but when I give serious thought to alot of people being athiest, I have to wonder how much of the blame should be put onto the churches. I always notice that athiests who write in have quite a bit of knowledge of the Bible - I have to wonder if thats because they were involved one way or another with religion, even perhaps just the church their family went to when they were growing up - and they heard such nonsense, such contradiction, that they became fed up and decided it was all just a scam. And is it any wonder? Turn on the tv any Sunday morning, and what do you find? A bunch of "christian" beggars looking for money - preachers who get on there with their telethons - beggars, nothing more. They tell you if you don't have the money now, just pledge it. God doesn't require that - thats people who have the love of the wallet, not the love of God. They target nice older people on fixed social security incomes - people who are getting older, and thinking about the hereafter - it makes me sick. Or how about the Sunday school who teaches that Eve ate an apple, so God said everybody would have terrible pain when they have kids because of it, forever - even if YOU didn't eat the apple. Its ridiculous. God wants to hurt you because of fruit??? (theres no apple in the Bible in the first place). Then you would wonder why people wouldn't want to be invoved with God?
Lets go to the church who makes a divorced woman sit in the back pew, like she's vial. God never said to do that. My own mother can't be bured with the rest of my familly because she isn't Catholic - she's methodist, so she isn't going to Heaven.
Hey, it doesn't surprize me one bit that people are athiest.
Unfortunately, God didn't decide on all these stupid rules and church systems, and hypocrisy - that was men who did that, and who are doing that. It really bothers me because I wish they could see beyond that bull to the real God, and His actual Word -Its amazing. I went to a religious school for twelve years, and never learned one accurate thing that the Bible really does say.
When I finally found out what the Book does say, I was floored.
Don't you see that theres so much bull**** out there that people can hardly see through it all so as to see God. Its also no wonder to me that God says when He returns, He's visiting the churches FIRST, and judgement is gonna start at the pulpits. Theres gonna be a whole lotta shakin' goin on....
God is not any happier with whats going on that your typical athiest. He will straighten things out.

Answer 5

Your research is flawed. Hitler was a Christian. Communism and Atheism are not always linked. Over 6 million people in WWII alone by Christians.

Give the EXACT name of the publication and where it can be found. Otherwise, I will consider you a liar.

Answer 6

Professor Rummel can estimate the number killed in all of history to the thousands place???

Bishop Usherr dates Creation to October 23, 4004 BC.

These Creationists are so much more accurate than scientists!

BTW, the estimate of 110 million killed by Communism comes from "The Black Book of Communism." If you read this book, youw ill find that this estimate largely derives from people who died from famine.

Answer 7

Why did the Roman Catholic Church do essentially nothing to prevent slave trade or the Holocaust?

Catholic Crusaders somehow found in necessary to kill Orthodox Christians and Jews on the way to killing Muslims in the Holy Land.

"And by defending myself against the Jew, I am doing the work of the Lord" - Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf".

Communism isn't 'atheistic'. True, a good portion of Communist governments promote a lack of religion. However, the kibbutz in Israel are communist communities which practice Judaism - hardly 'atheistic'.

Answer 8

See the difference is Atheists don't kill in the name of their religion, or very few do at least. If you want to count random acts, you would have to count such Christians as Hitler, and the many millions he killed or effected. There really isn't an argument here, Christianity is historically the most deadly religion by far, and there is no way of comparing that to atheism, because when they murder, it is the same as when Christians do it for non-religious reasons, and the two combined would still certainly number higher than deaths Atheists are responsible for.

Answer 9

Look, folks: he's not citing nutty data. The hundred-million-or-so figure for Communism is widely accepted. The plain fact is that it dwarfs the body count of religion.

Nietzsche said it: when God is dead, everything is permitted. Christians have done a lot of f*cked-up ****, but there is this niggling and inescapable problem, namely, that their founder preached unconditional love and forgiveness. That means that on the whole, even though it's a huge social collective, there are some brakes on Christian genocide. Atheism removes those brakes, because atheism ultimately *cannot* ground morality in anything transpersonal or objective.

Answer 10

All the major cults were Xtian.

You forgot to add them in, thats over 1,000 more to your headcount. Not to mention Xtian principles were responsible for slavery and the brutal slaughter and disgusting treatment of the Native Americans in the US. There is so much more you forgot about.

Answer 11

Thats nice. But keep in mind the proportion to the growing population. Murderers will use any cause to justify themselves. How is keeping a religious death count going to solve anything? Self-righteousness kills. Intolerance kills.