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One of the tenants of the Christian faith, the cornerstone of the belief, is that Jesus Christ died for our sins (specifically the sin of Eve which cast us out of the Garden of Eden). For people of faith, how can God die for a fairy tale? For people of science, how much scotch tape do we need to use to understand the bible?

2007-01-16 10:34:22 · 24 answers · asked by Cavy 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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I don't believe in original sin; for God to condemn me for something an ancestor did is unjust and I do not believe God to be unjust. I also reject the notion that "Christ died for our sins"; Jesus died because he was viewed as a troublemaker (I do not call him such). As for how much Scotch tape is needed to understand the Bible, you are better off to cut out the sayings of Jesus himself and throw away the rest (exactly what Thomas Jefferson did).

2007-01-16 10:39:17 · answer #1 · answered by The Doctor 7 · 1 0

I am a Muslim, and I don't believe that every human being is born with an original sin, or that Christ died for our sins. Every soul carries its own burden, and Jesus was nothing more than a prophet of God like Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Muhammad, etc.

Jesus never taught his followers that he should be worshipped, or that he will die so that the original sin can be erased. The trinity and other foriegn concepts entered Christinianity by way of Paul and other European converts who came from pagan societies. These were people who never even met Jesus.

As far as Darwinian evolution is concerened, I don't believe in that either. It has been throroughly debunked by Muslim and Christian scientists.

Check out http://www.hyahya.org

2007-01-16 10:49:36 · answer #2 · answered by SR 2 · 0 0

Jesus didn't die for a fairy tale. The bible is very real. The proof is here today when your talking about the Adam and Eve. After Eve's sin, a curse was put on women to have pain in childbirth, we have that today and men were to toil in the soil to grow food. The serpent had legs in the garden and was cursed to crawl on his belly which is what the snake does today. Right down to the making of Eve by taking one of Adam's ribs. Woman still today has an extra rib to symbolize the one taken from Adam. Jesus died for all of our sins, not just Eve, she is just the one that started it.

2007-01-16 10:41:38 · answer #3 · answered by Angela F 5 · 1 0

in answer to the first part of your question:::::

For people of faith, how can God die for a fairy tale?

You have to look at things that people die for and apply the same thought to that as well. people die for "political fairy tales"every day so to die for our sins, well its easy to grasp that one would die to save others souls versus die to pave the way for capitolism and limited democray. plus, that dosent sound very religeous.


and for the second part of your question:::::

For people of science, how much scotch tape do we need to use to understand the bible?

Understanding is limited to the individual levels of perception, that being fact,

1. you must find a group of individuals that are of the same perception and define a median or moderator out of said group

2.then devide the group into 2 smaller groups (preferable equal as it eliminates the need for handicaping)

3.give both groups the same amount of scotch tape, a Bible, and a time limit and begin the expirement

4.Have the moderator take notes that will later be broken down into statistical data and processed by a non biased authority into your answer

2007-01-16 11:10:39 · answer #4 · answered by blackplatnium007 2 · 0 0

your question does not make a lot of sense.

the bible says that god made Adam from the dust of the earth. how do you know that evolution may not have been his tool to create this person.

the bible says that god made the earth in 6 days and rested onn the 7th, but it also says that a day is like a thousand years to god, and a thousand years like a day.

therefore when thinking about the limited education of the early prophets, why dose it seem so impossible to you that god simply did not talk about things that were outside of their experience.

god would not say to aberham, i made Adam teh first man useing a long and tedious process starting with a single living cell...what is a cell you ask,,,it is a living thing that is so small that you can not see it, and it has no tought pattern or brain function,,,what is a brain you ask, it is the hub of your central nervous system it controols all of your body functions such as heart rate and breathing and it sends electrical impulsed to your muscles to make them work...what is electric you ask,,,

OH THE HELL WITH IT....

I made Adam from dust. and then i made eve from adam...how did i do that, i used part of Adam ...a rib....

2007-01-16 10:46:09 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Well the whole human belief is that you have to see things on order for them to exist, and people just put the smackdown on Christians because we dont have proof. Well I believe the bible was written in the 6th century and tells a lot of stuff that Darwin talks about only in a scientific manor, well Darwin came along well after the 6th century.... Also just because you could never see air does it mean it doesnt exist

2007-01-16 13:23:42 · answer #6 · answered by El 3 · 0 0

let me pose it another way

A person in a story say his name is Garth and this person went around teach people "the truth" and people started to believe what he was saying. As the days and years went by the crowd grew and grew to say a few thousand then one day Garth was sought out by the local majistrate and condemnd for his crimes against his king and hung.
Now the crowd that followed in Garth's teachings wound what will happen to them so the cult that Garth started goes under ground for a few hundred years until someone close to them gets into power and that cult soon becomes a main religion.
" hey doesn't this sound kinda familur"
a book starting a movement like the bible did can't disprove something that has almost nothing to do with what is in it.
next time you try to disprove something look it up with an open mind.

2007-01-16 10:59:56 · answer #7 · answered by drakelungx 3 · 1 0

You've got to be kidding. The figurative interpretation of the creation story also allows for the notion that Jesus died for our sins. Evolution is scientific fact. You aren't disproving that by beliving in the garden of Eden, your ignoring fact. Do you believe that slavery is ok? The bible also justifies that directly. One does not have to contain original sin in order to sin. Mabey Jesus died for that sin, not the imaginary black mark you drew in kindergarden when asked to draw your soul.

2007-01-16 10:44:30 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

In "The God Delusion", Dawkins repeats the tale of a scientist who turned to the bible, and cut out all the parts that - as a scientist - he knew were wrong.

He ended up with a bible that was so full of holes it literally wouldn't say in one piece. It was then that he realized he would need to either give up science or give up a literal interpretation of the bible.

Unfortunately, he made the wrong decision.

2007-01-16 10:38:27 · answer #9 · answered by eldad9 6 · 1 0

Evolution and the Bible don't mix. Heb 11 By faith we believe that the worlds were created by the Word of God.

2007-01-16 10:39:26 · answer #10 · answered by oldguy63 7 · 1 0

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