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2007-01-16 07:00:23 · 13 answers · asked by ? 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Since the fall of man, the basis of salvation has always been the death of Christ. No one, either prior to the cross or since the cross, would ever be saved without that one pivotal event in the history of the world. Christ's death paid the penalty for past sins of Old Testament saints and future sins of New Testament saints.
The requirement for salvation has always been faith. The object of one's faith for salvation has always been God. The psalmist wrote, "Blessed are all those who put their trust in Him" (Psalm 2:12). Genesis 15:6 tells us that Abraham believed God and that was enough for God to account it to him for righteousness (see also Romans 4:3-8). The Old Testament sacrificial system did not take away sin, as Hebrews 9:1-10:4 clearly teaches. It did, however, point to the day when the Son of God would shed His blood for the sinful human race.
What has changed through the ages is the content of a believer's faith. God's requirement of what must be believed is based on the amount of revelation He has given mankind up to that time. This is called progressive revelation. Adam believed the promise God gave in Genesis 3:15 that the Seed of the woman would conquer Satan. Adam believed Him, demonstrated by the name he gave Eve (v.20) and the Lord indicated His acceptance immediately by covering them with coats of skin (v.21). At that point that is all Adam knew, but he believed it.
Abraham believed God according to the promises and new revelation God gave him in Genesis 12 and 15. Prior to Moses, no Scripture was written, but mankind was responsible for what God had revealed. Throughout the Old Testament, believers came to salvation because they believed that God would someday take care of their sin problem. Today, we look back, believing that He has already taken care of our sins on Calvary (John 3:16; Hebrews 9:28).
What about believers in Christ's day, prior to the cross and resurrection, what did they believe? Did they understand the full picture of Christ dying on a cross for their sins? Late in his ministry, "Jesus began to show to His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised the third day" (Matthew 16:21). What was the reaction of His disciples to this message? "Then Peter took Him aside and began to rebuke Him, saying, '‘Far be it from you, Lord; this shall not happen to you!'" (16:22). Peter, and the other disciples, did not know the full truth, yet they were saved because they believed that God would take care of their sin problem. They didn't exactly know how He would accomplish that, any more than Adam, Abraham, Moses, or David knew how, but they believed God.
Today, we have more revelation than did people living before the resurrection of Christ, we know the full picture. "God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son" (Hebrews 1:1-2). Our salvation is still based on the death of Christ, our faith is still the requirement for salvation, and the object of our faith is still God. Today for us the content of our faith is that Christ died for our sins, that He was buried, and that He rose the third day (1 Corinthians 15:3-4).

2007-01-16 16:41:59 · answer #1 · answered by Freedom 7 · 0 1

God does have a way of dealing with them. As it is written: "For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ SHALL ALL BE MADE ALIVE. But every man in his own order: Christ the first fruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
Then comes the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father" (I Cor 15:22-24)

Christ was the first to be resurrected; the saints (those who follow God's Ways in this life -- the Patriarchs and Christians in this age) will be the next to be resurrected at the second coming of Christ; and then after the "thousand years" everyone else will have their turn.

That's what the resurrection of the dead is all about. It is at that time that God and his saints will teach all those people who did not have an opportunity before to know the truth of God and Christ.

This will ocure at the end of the thousand year reign of Christ and his saints on the earth:
"...the witness[es] of Jesus,... lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were ended....And whenever the thousand years are ended,...And I saw the dead, the small and the great, standing before God. And books were opened. And another Book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged out of the things written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead in it. And death and Hades gave up the dead in them. And they were each judged according to their works." (Rev 20:4...13)

2007-01-16 07:18:50 · answer #2 · answered by BC 6 · 0 1

Read 1 peter..the answer is there.
3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death * in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein * few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

2007-01-16 07:05:03 · answer #3 · answered by Royal Racer Hell=Grave © 7 · 2 1

They are asleep in death, awaiting the Resurrection after Armageddon, just as Jesus taught.
Our Great Spirit Creator, Yahweh God(Jehovah), told Adam, "Dust you are and to dust you will return"--that goes for all who die--even those in the old days.
Heaven is God's realm as well as His angels', not for mankind in general--those who become kings and priests in the kingdom of heaven to rule with the Christ for 1000 years will be raised up as spirit persons--these are bought from the earth and anointed by God to have the special priviledge of ruling with Christ. After the 1000 years, when perfection has been restored, Christ hands the Kingship back over to his Father, Yahweh God. I do hope you have learned something.

2007-01-16 07:30:45 · answer #4 · answered by avaddohn-Apollyon 4 · 0 1

Jayzee went back in time (like the South Park episode the position Eric travelled to the destiny) and he have all of them loose passes cos they were such losers to be born previously he confirmed up. Nah only kiddin'. you'll waste a life-time searching for reason in faith. both do no longer blend. and also you'll waste a life-time deluding your self that they could... forget your relatives youngster. If faith ability extra to them than you do, they are no longer quite your relatives besides. they only presented the genetic textile you mandatory to start up. yet you're off now. So bypass delight in the journey...

2016-11-24 21:34:23 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Yes...Those who were of God's people who died before Jesus' Sacrifice on The Cross went to a place called Paradise where they waited for Jesus to come and take them to Heaven. Which He did when He left His mortal flesh on The Cross... after he had taken those inParadise to Heaven Jesus returned to earth and spent 40 days with his followers before returning to Heaven.

The People of God, befor Jesus walked the earth, were given laws and rituals to follow to show their faithfulness to God... and of course God know each ones Heart... so.. those who were faithful to God,not just faking it, by following the symbolic practices...which were all in some way symbolic of Jesus who was yet to come...were in fact following The Way which is Jesus.

there is of course more to it than that... and just saying you "believe" in Jesus will not now get you into Heaven.... Only those who come to God in The Way He prescribes will receive His free gift of Salvation and enter Heaven... Those become of The Body of The Church or which Jesus The Christ is The Head... these are those of The True Christian Faith... only those of The Church will enter Heaven.

2007-01-16 07:13:07 · answer #6 · answered by idahomike2 6 · 2 2

He preached to all the dead so they could be saved too. He died for all humanity before and after him. After his death and resurrection all the dead could then go to heaven for the first time. No human went there until after Jesus except Enoch and Elijah.

2007-01-16 10:00:01 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Jesus died for all those in the past as well. Those who came to the Father through faith were coming into Christ. Christ just had not yet been revealed.

Please dont' listen to those who say Jesus decended into hell. This is a false teaching.

If you read Hebrews you will see how what was before Jesus was just a shadow of what was to come. So all those who believed in God by faith. As did Abraham, they were considered the family of God. The mystery just had not yet been completely revealed.

2007-01-16 07:04:59 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 7 2

This is how it was explained to me:

There were orginally two sections or compartments of Hell: the true Hell where those who didn't believe in the true God went, and "Abraham's bosom," a peaceful section reserved for those who believed in God but who died before Christ.

When Christ descended to Hell after the Crucifixion and before the Resurrection, He preached to the dead in Abraham's bosom. Those righteous dead who accepted Him ascended to Heaven with Him when He arose, and some scholars believe that they are the dead who arose from their graves and appeared to many.

The unrighteous dead refused to accept Him as Messiah and stayed where they were in the bad part of Hell. Since there is no "time" in Eternity, both groups' choices were as valid as if they were still living.

I can provide Scripture references for all of this if needs be, but it will take me quite a whilte to find all of them. Email me for more details.

2007-01-16 07:13:28 · answer #9 · answered by Wolfeblayde 7 · 0 2

"Jesus descended into Hell".
When Jesus was in Hell, he saved all who believed in him and lead them to the Kingdom of Heaven.

Jesus is the center pivotal point in time. He existed in the begging, and he will be the end (Alpha & Omega). When we celebrate the Eucharist, we are joining with those who came before us, those taking the Eucharist now, and those who will take the Eucharist in the future; morphing all time in the moment you partake in the Eucharist. Deeper, we all become the "Body of Christ" at the moment we take the Eucharist.

2007-01-16 07:08:20 · answer #10 · answered by Giggly Giraffe 7 · 1 2

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