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dont answer unless you've done your research and really know. i heard the church made it up

2007-01-14 23:54:50 · 18 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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It is clearly taught in the Bible. However, many don't listen or understand. Perhaps you disagree, but please read what I've written.

1) The word translated as "God" in our Bibles is the Hebrew word "Elohim," which is a pleural word meaning "Gods."

2) God refers to Himself in the pleural; see Genesis 1:26a. There is no evidence this is the "royal we," as some try to argue.

3) There are instances in the Bible where God the Father speaks to God the Son (Jesus Christ, a.k.a. The Word). In Psalm 45:6-7, the writer states: "Your throne, O God, is for ever and ever: A scepter of equity is the scepter of your kingdom. You have loved righteousness, and hated wickedness: Therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness above your fellows." Notice that the word God is actually applied to two different Persons within these two verses. He is addressing God, and after addressing God, he says that another God had anointed the first God with the oil of gladness above "your" fellows. It should be noted that in this verse the first Elohim is being addressed. The second Elohim is the God of the first Elohim. Therefore, it is God’s God who has anointed Him with the oil of gladness. Another example may be found at Hosea 1:7.

4) Then there are Scriptural sources that reference ALL THREE Persons of the Trinity: Father, Son and Spirit:

Isaiah 42:1 "Behold, My [Father] servant [Son], whom I uphold; My chosen, in whom My soul delights: I have put My Spirit [Holy Spirit] upon Him; He will bring forth justice to the Gentiles."

The first Person is the speaker, who is seen by the pronouns "my" and "I." The second Person is the speaker's "servant," the servant of Jehovah. And the third Person is the "Spirit" of God. Scripture repeatedly identifies Jesus Christ as God the Father's "Servant."

Isaiah 61:1 is a second example:

"The Spirit [person #1] of the Lord Jehovah [person # 2] is upon Me [person # 3]; because Jehovah has anointed Me to preach good tidings unto the meek; He has sent Me to bind up the broken-hearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;…" Again, there are three individuals: the Lord Jehovah; the Spirit of Jehovah; and the speaker ("me"). We know from Luke 4:18 that the person referring to Himself as "Me" is Jesus Christ.

5) Many folks, when disputing the Triune nature of God, use Deut. 6:4 as proof that "God is One," not "three Gods in One." However, they misunderstand the Hebrew word used there and its context. The Hebrew word translated as "one" is "echad." This word DOES NOT state an "absolute one," it states a "compound One" that fully supports the Trinity. Look at these Biblical verses that ALL use "echad": Gen. 1:5 & 2:24; Ezra 2:64; Ezekiel 37:17. Here, we see a PLEURALITY that is joined into a singular, yet the pleurality of this One is still recognized. Conversely, the Hebrew word "yachid" means an "ABSOLUTE ONE," and can be seen at places such as Gen. 22:2, where it's translated as "only." NEVER is God refered to as "yachid," which would be necessary in order for anti-Trinitarians to be correct.

There is MUCH more proof of the Trinity in the Bible. If you want more information, send me a message through YA and I'd be happy to send it to you.

Peace.

2007-01-15 00:07:31 · answer #1 · answered by Suzanne: YPA 7 · 0 0

I have to be brief. It is a long and involved question and I am going to give it to you without quoting a lot of Bible verses. I am not a theologion but have done some research as I have taught Christian RE for quite a few years.
Jesus did not actually say the word 'Trinity" nor did he ever say,
" I am God." but He gave us a lot to add to the other pointers in the Bible about the Trinity and himself.
The early theologians did formulate the teaching on the Trinity, but they certainly did not make it up.
It is a mystery, which is beyond human explanation, ie how God can be made up of three seperate identities. There are many things in all religions, which are beyond human comprehension. Which is why God gave us the gift of faith.
In the first Chapter of the Bible it says, "...and the spirit of God was moving across the waters...." So we know that the spirit of God existed at the beginning.
There can be know doubt about The Father in heaven who is evident throughout the Bible.
Jesus said, of himself "....I came down from heaven...." So we know that he was there from the beginning too, especially as St Paul says, "...through Him (Jesus) all things were made..." and "....... He ( again Jesus) did not cling to His equality with God...." Jesus also said "....The Father and I are one...." Then on the occasion when he met his disciples before he ascended to heaven He had the power to breath the Holy Sprit into them.
In the new Testament letters, The Holy Spirit is referred to in the NT (twice I think) as the Spirit of Jesus. Which is why we can be sure that "the helper, advocate" that he had the authority to say that he would send was the Holy Spirit.
The fact that he said that his apostles/disciples should go and baptise "In the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit ", is just one verse to add to the many others which are the basis of our belief in the Trinity.
I think the verses I have mentioned also show (with others that I can give you if you like) about the Divinity of Jesus; the rest, as I have said is Faith.)

2007-01-16 22:26:36 · answer #2 · answered by Palamino 4 · 0 0

a million) there is purely one real God (Deuteronomy 6:4; Isaiah 40 5:5). 2) the daddy is the only real God (John 17:3; a million Corinthians 8:6). logic utilized to Jesus: 3) Jesus is God (Colossians 2:9; a million Timothy 3:sixteen). 4) for this reason, Jesus would desire to be the daddy (John 14:9; John 10:28-30) logic utilized to the Holy Spirit 3) The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God (a million Corinthians 2:11,13; Matthew 3:sixteen with Luke 3:22). 4) for this reason, the Holy Spirit would desire to be the Spirit of the daddy (Mark 13:11; Luke 12:12 with Matthew 10:20). the excellence isn't between "persons interior the Godhead," yet God present the two as an exact and finished man or woman and as God all-powerful persevering with to exist aside from humanity. Apostolic Believer in one God, JESUS Does Genesis a million:26 teach that God is a trinity of persons? Hmmm..... "enable's see".....

2016-10-20 05:39:53 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

DO YOU believe in the Trinity? Most people in Christendom do. After all, it has been the central doctrine of the churches for centuries.
In view of this, you would think that there could be no question about it. But there is, and lately even some of its supporters have added fuel to the controversy.


Why should a subject like this be of any more than passing interest? Because Jesus himself said: "Eternal life is this: to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent." So our entire future hinges on our knowing the true nature of God, and that means getting to the root of the Trinity controversy. Therefore, why not examine it for yourself?-John 17:3, Catholic Jerusalem Bible (JB).
Various Trinitarian concepts exist. But generally the Trinity teaching is that in the Godhead there are three persons, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost; yet, together they are but one God. The doctrine says that the three are coequal, almighty, and uncreated, having existed eternally in the Godhead.
Others, however, say that the Trinity doctrine is false, that Almighty God stands alone as a separate, eternal, and all-powerful being. They say that Jesus in his prehuman existence was, like the angels, a separate spirit person created by God, and for this reason he must have had a beginning. They teach that Jesus has never been Almighty God's equal in any sense; he has always been subject to God and still is. They also believe that the holy ghost is not a person but God's spirit, his active force.
Supporters of the Trinity say that it is founded not only on religious tradition but also on the Bible. Critics of the doctrine say that it is not a Bible teaching, one history source even declaring: "The origin of the [Trinity] is entirely pagan."-The Paganism in Our Christianity.
If the Trinity is true, it is degrading to Jesus to say that he was never equal to God as part of a Godhead. But if the Trinity is false, it is degrading to Almighty God to call anyone his equal, and even worse to call Mary the "Mother of God." If the Trinity is false, it dishonors God to say, as noted in the book Catholicism: "Unless [people] keep this Faith whole and undefiled, without doubt [they] shall perish everlastingly. And the Catholic Faith is this: we worship one God in Trinity."
There are good reasons, then, why you should want to know the truth about the Trinity. But before examining its origin and its claim of truthfulness, it would be helpful to define this doctrine more specifically. What, exactly, is the Trinity? How do supporters of it explain it?

2007-01-15 00:19:17 · answer #4 · answered by I speak Truth 6 · 0 0

The trinity is a doctrine promulgated by the Ecumenical Councils of the Church.

Dr. Adel Elsaie writes:

The average Christian may not know that councils of senior pastors established the Christian doctrine. Those pastors were arguing about theological subjects that Jesus himself did not introduce...The assembly of the first seven Ecumenical Councils of the early Christian world would establish the standards of the doctrine and hierarchy of the new religion. Usually pastors that represented the opposition to the final agreement of the council were fired or transferred to smaller churches. It is worthwhile to pause and take a look at how the Councils came into being and what decisions were made by them - presumably for all eternity. It is also important to examine the political background that surrounded the decision making process that changed Christianity forever.

That's just an introduction. For further information, kindly visit:
http://www.usislam.org/69ecum.htm

Peace and Love

2007-01-15 01:22:43 · answer #5 · answered by mil's 4 · 0 1

Freind it is a theory that the Catholic church made up, & now many protestant chruches have adopted the same false doctrince, The Apostles never taught that there was a trinity. And yes I have done all my research, I have been saved since 1970, I think 37 yrs. is some research, nowhere can anyone find anyone baptized in the name of the father, son, holy ghost, They all were baptized in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ.

2007-01-15 00:01:33 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

The Trinity was agreed upon as doctrine by a committee of men. The results of that committee is called the Nicene an creed. They basically argued for days and voted. even then the arguments lasted years after that to another Nicene council.

To me, if this was really gods will, All they would need to do is get together, pray, and everyone should receive the same "Revelation" for a unanimous vote within a couple of hours.
"God's will be done!" right? That's why the Nicene creed doesn't make much sense. who knows though, maybe they were right but we are misinterpreting what they are saying. we still misinterpret the constitution, and it's a lot younger.

2007-01-14 23:58:15 · answer #7 · answered by Coool 4 · 0 1

The trinity is a reality.
1st you have to ask yourself the questions, do you believe in God, Do you believe He is the creator of heaven and earth. Do you believe that Jesus is His Son and that He is the saviour of the world? If you do then the trinity is something that will be clear to you right from the beginning of the Bible when God said "let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness: Gen 1:26 KJV. Clearly God was not referring to one person. He would have said Let me, In My own....
Jesus also referred to His Father in heaven having sent Him to earth and that He was doing His Father's will See John 6:38,57.
Later when Jesus was through with His earthly ministry and was saying goodbye to His somehow dejected disciples, He assured them of His presence with them always and the commissioned them to go forth to all nations and baptize people in 'the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit'. Matt 28:19,20
To believe in the trinity you have to see the trinity in the full light of exactly who God is or what God is for that matter!
None of the research tools that we have can ever match to what God himself has revealed to us in His Holy Scriptures. No matter how hard we try. All we need to know is right there in the Bible. Just because our weak eyes cannot see it does not mean it does not exist.

2007-01-15 00:25:33 · answer #8 · answered by irene k 1 · 0 0

Trinity:
There is one God: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, a unity of three co-eternal Persons. God is immortal, all-powerful, all-knowing, above all, and ever present. He is infinite and beyond human comprehension, yet known through His self-revelation. He is forever worthy of worship, adoration, and service by the whole creation. (Deut. 6:4; Matt. 28:19; 2 Cor. 13:14; Eph. 4:4-6; 1 Peter 1:2; 1 Tim. 1:17; Rev. 14:7.)


3. Father:
God the eternal Father is the Creator, Source, Sustainer, and Sovereign of all creation. He is just and holy, merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness. The qualities and powers exhibited in the Son and the Holy Spirit are also revelations of the Father. (Gen. 1:1; Rev. 4:11; 1 Cor. 15:28; John 3:16; 1 John 4:8; 1 Tim. 1:17; Ex. 34:6, 7; John 14:9.)

4. Son:
God the eternal Son became incarnate in Jesus Christ. Through Him all things were created, the character of God is revealed, the salvation of humanity is accomplished, and the world is judged. Forever truly God, He became also truly man, Jesus the Christ. He was conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. He lived and experienced temptation as a human being, but perfectly exemplified the righteousness and love of God. By His miracles He manifested God's power and was attested as God's promised Messiah. He suffered and died voluntarily on the cross for our sins and in our place, was raised from the dead, and ascended to minister in the heavenly sanctuary in our behalf. He will come again in glory for the final deliverance of His people and the restoration of all things. (John 1:1-3, 14; Col. 1:15-19; John 10:30; 14:9; Rom. 6:23; 2 Cor. 5:17-19; John 5:22; Luke 1:35; Phil. 2:5-11; Heb. 2:9-18; 1 Cor. 15:3, 4; Heb. 8:1, 2; John 14:1-3.)

5. Holy Spirit:
God the eternal Spirit was active with the Father and the Son in Creation, incarnation, and redemption. He inspired the writers of Scripture. He filled Christ's life with power. He draws and convicts human beings; and those who respond He renews and transforms into the image of God. Sent by the Father and the Son to be always with His children, He extends spiritual gifts to the church, empowers it to bear witness to Christ, and in harmony with the Scriptures leads it into all truth. (Gen. 1:1, 2; Luke 1:35; 4:18; Acts 10:38; 2 Peter 1:21; 2 Cor. 3:18; Eph. 4:11, 12; Acts 1:8; John 14:16-18, 26; 15:26, 27; 16:7-13.)

2007-01-15 00:19:01 · answer #9 · answered by Damian 5 · 0 0

Peace!
It is not a doctrine or theory made up by man. It came from Jesus Christ himself. "I have been given all authority in heaven and earth. Go, then, to all peoples everywhere and make them my disciples: baptize them in the name of the FATHER, the SON, and the HOLY SPIRIT... Matthew 28.18-19 (Good News Bible)

2007-01-15 00:19:24 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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