What primates were on the ark?

Question

I keep hearing how Noah dind't have to bring two of each species onto the ark but only two of each kind. The argument is that since the end of the flood, there has been a genetic deterioration amongst 'kinds' that has caused all the species that we see today.

So, here is a question for anyone who believes in the flood. Aside from humans, what primates were on the ark?

David T. -- OK you believe all the species were on board. OK. So Do you really think its feasible to have all those animals standing in such close quarters for a year. And given that most animals will eat their weight in food (and I'm being conservative here) in a month, don't you need to multiply you space requirements by at least 4-6 assuming that the food could pack more efficiently than the anmals.

Add to that the fact that the estimate of one million species is low and most estimates are now in the range of 20-50 million.

Cool Guy -- read my other questions before you go off like that.

Answer 1

The Lord asked Noah to take with him seven of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and 2 of every kind of unclean animal a male and its mate & also 7 of every kind of bird, male & female to keep their various kinds alive throughout the earth. That's to answer your question according to the bible. When we think of the How, what , when and why its usually on a small scale. If "God" created Heaven and Earth then I believe him to be able to know how much room was needed on the ark to sustain the family and animals that were to start mankind all over again.

Answer 2

He had to bring two of each of the unclean animals and seven of the clean ones.

The creationists had to come up with this "genetic deterioration" idea or else they could not fit all the animals on the Ark. They still can't.

The animals most closely related to humans are chimpanzees and bonobos. If they were on the Ark then all the other apes and most of the monkeys would have to be there as well as the lemurs, lorises and bushbabies.

If the gap between humans and chimpanzees is the margin then all the different zebras and horses would need to be on the Ark as well as the three species of elephant that are alive today. I suppose the other 347 species of elephant died in the flood.

I have heard some garbage in my time but David T is still waffling about Morris and Woodmorappe whose statements were totally discredited years ago.

Answer 3

Now comes the question, how many land dwelling air breathing animals would have had to be taken aboard the ark to survive the flood?

According to Ernest Mayr, America's leading taxonomist, there are over 1 million species of animals in the world.

God only provided the Ark for the protection of humans and land-dwelling, air-breathing creatures. A huge number of animals would not need to be taken aboard the Ark because they are water dwellers. Representatives would be expected to survive the catastrophe. With God's protection against extinction during the Deluge, survival would have been assured. (Scene from The World that Perished, a Christian motion picture about the Flood)However, the vast majority of these are capable of surviving in water and would not need to be brought aboard the ark. Noah need make no provision for the 21,000 species of fish or the 1,700 tunicates (marine chordates like sea squirts) found throughout the seas of the world, or the 600 echinoderms including star fish and sea urchins, or the 107,000 mollusks such as mussels, clams and oysters, or the 10,000 coelenterates like corals and sea anemones, jelly fish and hydroids or the 5,000 species of sponges, or the 30,000 protozoans, the microscopic single-celled creatures.

In addition, some of the mammals are aquatic. For example, the whales, seals and porpoises. The amphibians need not all have been included, nor all the reptiles, such as sea turtles, and alligators. Moreover, a large number of the arthropods numbering 838,000 species, such as lobsters, shrimp, crabs and water fleas and barnacles are marine creatures. And the insect species among arthropoda are usually very small. Also, many of the 35,000 species of worms as well as many of the insects could have survived outside the Ark.

How many animals needed to be brought aboard?
Doctors Morris and Whitcomb in their classic book,The Genesis Flood state that no more than 35,000 individual animals needed to go on the ark. In his well documented book, Noah's Ark: A Feasibility Study, John Woodmorappe suggests that far fewer animals would have been transported upon the ark. By pointing out that the word "specie" is not equivalent to the "created kinds" of the Genesis account, Woodmorappe credibly demonstrates that as few as 2,000 animals may have been required on the ark. To pad this number for error, he continues his study by showing that the ark could easily accommodate 16,000 animals.)

But, let's be generous and add on a reasonable number to include extinct animals. Then add on some more to satisfy even the most skeptical. Let's assume 50,000 animals, far more animals than required, were on board the ark, and these need not have been the largest or even adult specimens.

Remember there are really only a few very large animals, such as the dinosaur or the elephant, and these could be represented by young ones. Assuming the average animal to be about the size of a sheep and using a railroad car for comparison, we note that the average double-deck stock car can accommodate 240 sheep. Thus, three trains hauling 69 cars each would have ample space to carry the 50,000 animals, filling only 37% of the ark. This would leave an additional 361 cars or enough to make 5 trains of 72 cars each to carry all of the food and baggage plus Noah's family of eight people. The Ark had plenty of space.

Answer 4

I don't take the Bible literally. It seems certainly IMPOSSIBLE that Noah could have built an ark with two of each species. Now, if the whole Earth really were destroyed, that would mean we have no idea of the technology that civilization might have had. Maybe they were far more advanced than we know and Noah kept cells of all the species and cloned them once he found dry land? How about that theory??

Answer 5

Peace!
The story of Noah and the ark is a myth picked up by Jewish writers after the exile. Genesis 1-11 should be read as a parable and not as an historical event. There are theological messages in the story of creation and that is what you should look for when you read the Book of Genesis.
God bless!

Answer 6

Have you read a science book in the last 50 years......You have to be out of your mind. It is scary in the 21 centuary that people still believe in ridiclous stories 2000 years ago. Do you belive in the Greek gods too? I heard when the deer was put next to the lion he ate it. Then I heard over the next 2000 years MAN KILLED TIGERS, BALD EAGELS, PANDAS, AND MANY MORE SPECIES TO EXTINCTION OR ALMOST EXTINCTION. WHERE WAS GOD THEN. Where were the dianors on the ark. Watch the discovery channel you dumb hick.

Answer 7

I love this one - especially in light of the recent story about the moron who believes that the world is only 18,000 years old!

He doesn't believe this based on fact mind you - he believes it because fact disproves his beliefs.

And then there's the idiot who believes that the Grand Canyon was created by "Noah's" flood.

Answer 8

I do not know i was not Thar
No one that we know was .

Answer 9

I think my mother-in- law was on it.

Answer 10

I think Ted Kennedy was there.....