I'm not talking about the other gospels and their take on the whole thing, I mean where in the Bible is Jesus Christ quoted condemning all gays. I've read through time and time again, and I have yet to find a single word attributed to Jesus about gays at all. Matthew & Mark both quote him repeatedly espousing love for all, revealing all secrets to the required understanding of all mankind, even openly declaring do not condemn others or it will all come back against you (another conveniently forgotten Bible verse, apparently.)
I have no interest in specious interpretations or correlations to other gospels, I am only interested in a direct quote from Jesus saying that all gays are evil and hellbound. After all, Jesus Christ was the head guy, right? It is called "Christianity", correct? Show me where Bossman says all gays should be sent to hell, please. For the sakes of those who need desperately to criminalize the gays, give them one single Jesus quote on this! Otherwise...?
2007-01-14 12:23:19 · 21 answers · asked by Vatican Lokey 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Again, I am fully aware of what Leviticus and Job, and everyone else supposedly said. I want a clear-cut, directly attributed quote from Jesus.
Nothing else will do as an aswer to this question. My requirements are simple, as is the question itself. It is not justification, or looking for an excuses, or any other supposed reasons. All I want is a simple, clear answer.
2007-01-14 12:55:12 · update #1
There is no quote of Jesus condemning homosexuality.
Homosexuality is denounced as an abomination worthy of death in the old testament, leviticus to start with, possibly other places.
In the new testament, I think Paul does a bit of railing against them too, but I've not read him in a long time, and my current bible is such a crummy translation I could never be sure. but Jesus himself never explicitly does so.
However, in Mat 5/17-21 Jesus clearly says he endorses old testament law and will not change the slightest part of it, which implies condemnation of homosexual conduct.
2007-01-14 12:48:30 · answer #1 · answered by Svartalf 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Jesus never addressed the subject of homosexuality in the Gospels, but other parts of the Bible (both Old and New Testaments) do. Since Jesus is God and the Bible, all of it, is God's word, we would assume that whatever any part of what the Bible teaches would be His opinion.
Also, I don't think that all gays are going to hell. Yes, homosexuality is a sin, but like all other sins, it can be avoided and it can be forgiven. Just because somebody has a tendency to be gay, doesn't mean that they actually have to date, sleep with, or marry people of the same gender. They could just be single, or if bisexual, focus on only the heterosexual side of their attraction to people.
And finally, all people, not just gays, are sinful and deserve to go to hell, but through Jesus, anyone can find redemption and freedom from sin. That is why His sacrifice on the cross is so important. Because of it, we can go to heaven.
2007-01-14 12:37:42 · answer #2 · answered by Lady of the Garden 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
What is sin? Sin is an offense against God as found in the Ten Commandments.
Jesus said, "So whoever sets aside one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven. But whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven." (Matthew 5:19)
As others have mentioned, since Jesus is the Word (John 1:1), everything in the Word is by Him.
Homosexuality is not any greater kind of sin than any other. The problem with homosexuality is that it has its own advocacy groups.
You don't see thieves asking people to accept their lifestyle, nor do you see murderers. But homosexuals do. And that is the real problem. Jesus told the woman caught in adultery, "Go and sin no more." (John 8:11) But those that advocate homosexuality would rather excuse their sin, than to "go and sin no more."
2007-01-14 12:36:45 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋
I would just like to start out by saying that you are absolutely right Jesus taught that we are to love one another (You shall love the lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: "You shall love your neighbor as you love yourself" on these two commandments hang all the law and all the prophets. Matthew 22:25) Now if you notice Jesus doesn't say love your neighbor as you love yourself as long as he is straight.
And for everyone who is condemning people to hell for their sins I would like to share this with you Matthew 7:1 Judge not that you not be judged. For with what measure you judge, you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured back to you. Now for the grand finally Leviticus 18:21.22 You shall not let any of your descendants pass through the fire of Molech, nor shall you profane the name of THE LORD YOUR GOD: I AM THE LORD, you shall NOT LIE WITH A MALE AS WITH A WOMAN. IT IS AN ABOMINATION. Now that's not Jesus speaking that is GOD. Depending on what you believe in it goes one of two ways It's either the same as Jesus saying it or it's better.
And behold I am coming quickly, And My reward is with me, To give to everyone according to his work. I am the ALPHA THE OMEGA, THE BEGGING AND THE END, THE FIRST AND THE LAST. ( Revelation 22:12-13)
2007-01-14 13:29:08 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Just to clear the air, Jesus was talking about a SPIRITUAL love and not the human love of flesh. Also, the gays, bis, and whatevers are not hellbound. Their problem will be always hearing at launch, "Houston, we have a problem!" This means that temptation was not overcome by the one at the launch site aiming for something better and eternal, and remains mortal and sinful. This is not a complex issue.
2007-01-14 14:04:29 · answer #5 · answered by ? 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Since the gospels were divinely inspired I fail to see how you could discount their relevance to being the word of God. If you take any of it as the word of God then you must take it all as the word of God. Jesus did not say that allgays were were evil and hellbound. He simply said that sinners in general who do not accept his gift of salvation and seek redemption from their sins, which includes not commiting the sin again and again, would not be allowed into the kingdom of heave. By sinners, he meant liars, cheats, thiefs, homosexuals, pedophiles, etc. But we are not to condemn any gay to hell as their destionation is only truly known by God himself and everyone will be accountable for their own sins.
2007-01-14 12:35:02 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
Actually, Jesus Christ never directly says anything about homosexual folk being condemned to hell or anything. If someone tells you that he does, they're 100% wrong.
The only real textual "evidence" (or whatever you'd like to call it) "condemning" gays is the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah which is in Genesis.
Other than that, you're completely correct in not finding Jesus condemn gays in the Bible because he doesn't.
2007-01-14 12:39:32 · answer #7 · answered by aint_the_dakota 1 · 2⤊ 2⤋
Jesus told the woman at the well who he knew led a life of promiscuity because he told her that she had many husbands.
He offered her an alternative to her way of living. He offered her living water.
He also told the woman caught in adultry to go and sin no more.
He did not condemn her, only told her not to sin anymore.
That means she had to change her behavior from within.
It also says in the Bible:
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
Genesis 19:1-29 says God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of homosexuality. It stinks in the nostrils of God. Genesis 13:13 identify the men of Sodom as exceedingly wicked sinners. Genesis 18:20 says that the sin of Sodom is "very grievous." Genesis 18:23 adds emphasis to the portrayal of the inhabitants of Sodom as "wicked."
Genesis 18:24-33 shows that God could not find even 10 righteous souls in Sodom. The perverts who inhabited Sodom, even wanted to rape God's Angels who had come to Sodom to rescue Lot.
2007-01-14 12:56:45 · answer #8 · answered by mr_mister1983 3 · 0⤊ 2⤋
He said it right after that verse that said its ok... Thats not there either?
Fact is, Jesus condemned sexual immorality Mark 7:21 For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery
The only way we know what is sexually immoral is from The Law, which includes homosexuality in that. If you believe Jesus meant all the other sexually immoral things EXCEPT homosexuality, then that's you. But, He certainly didn't exclude it did He?
2007-01-14 12:33:25 · answer #9 · answered by impossble_dream 6 · 5⤊ 1⤋
Leviticus 18:22 Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman that is detestable
Leviticus 20:13
i wont write anymore but theres 2 read the 2nd one,,,
God Bless
LH
2007-01-14 12:35:50 · answer #10 · answered by Sweetness 5 · 1⤊ 2⤋