Has the catholic church thrown out the Holy Scriptures of God?

Question

Gal 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. ((this scripture debunks the teaching of mary being sinnless))

2Ti 3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: (( this scripture proves with out a dought that the Holy Scripture is to be use to defend the faith)) as God has inspired the scripture and given it to us for correction and instruction in rightious and for the actually doctrine of the church. Any activity of the church that does nto line up with the scripture as provided is not of God but of satan. The deciever of the people of God. So every practice of the faith is to be tested against the scripture of The Holy Bible. Do catholic test the church againt the Word of GOD?

Answer 1

Yeah.
They did that a long time ago.

Answer 2

Wow, is this a question or an argument? Let's be civil, please.

During Jesus' time, He taught His apostles and followers many lessons. They in turn wrote many of His stories in letters and such, creating the Bible as we know it. So when He taught them through His actions and His words, was He simply dictating to his scribes so that future generations could read His words literally, or was He truly teaching His disciples? The latter, I think all Christians can agree.

So the context of His words and what they were thought to mean at the time are relevant. As are other traditions He observed with his followers. All of these form the Apostolic Traditions that go with the Apostolic Scripture (the New Testament).

So the Catholic Church, as ordered by Christ Himself, ("And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church" Matt. 16:18), follows His instructions today. Not just those written in the Bible, but their context and traditions, as well.

The Bible says as much itself:
"First of all you must understand this, that no prophecy of scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation." (2 Peter 1:20)
"There are some things in them hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures." (2 Peter 3:16)
"stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter" (2 Thess. 2:15)

If you still feel the need to assault the Catholic faith, then please read http://www.ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/FUNDAME1.HTM immediately. Many similar questions are answered at the link below.

Answer 3

all Rcc beliefs can be found in the bible, some plainly others indirectly indicated. Scripture itself points out an authoritative church & tradition. St Paul points out in his second letter to the Thess – stand firm & hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or letter. Here are some scriptures to check out 2 Thess 2:15, 1 Cor 11:2, 2 Thess 3:6, 2 Tim 1:13-14 & 2:2. When the first Christians had disagreements they didn’t open their bibles – they didn’t exist – they held councils and held binding decrees – these councils were those who knew more then the others and they came to an agreement/understanding and thus made a binding decree (acts 15:1-29). The very books of the bible were determined by the Church (Rcc) and didn’t even happen until the 4th century – centuries of oral tradition. Without their determination and will to listen to the Holy Spirit, sent by God to inspire them there would be no bible.

Answer 4

No, the Catholic Church has not thrown out the Holy Scriptures of God.

+ Sources of Doctrine +

The Catholic Church does not use Holy Scripture as the only basis of doctrine. It could not. The early Catholic church existed before and during the time that the New Testament was written (by Catholics).

There were hundreds of Christian writings during the first and second centuries. Which New Testament writings would become official was not fully decided until about 400 AD.

Catholics believe that the Holy Spirit was guiding the early church (and is guiding the church today) to make the correct choices about things like:
+ The Holy Trinity (which is also only hinted at in the Bible)
+ Going to church on Sunday instead of Saturday (which is actually directly against one of the Ten Commandments)
+ The Communion of Saints
+ Which writings include in the New Testament?

Things that are even more modern like
+ Slavery is bad. Slavery is never declared evil in the Bible. This was one of the justifications for slavery in the Confederate States.
+ Democracy is good. The Bible states that either God should be the leader of the nation like Israel before the kings or kings should be the leader, "Give to Caesar that which is Caesar's." This was talked about a lot during the American Revolution.

This second source of doctrine is called Apostolic Tradition.

http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt1sect1chpt2.htm#80

+ Immaculate Mary +

Catholics believe in the the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary.

When the angel Gabriel called Mary, "Full of grace," Mary was already full of grace.

When the angel Gabriel said, "The Lord is with you," the Lord was already with her.

The Blessed Virgin Mary was in a state of grace before she says "yes" to the angel's question and before the Holy Spirit came upon her for a different purpose.

When did Mary's biblical based state of grace begin?

The Bible does not say.

However Catholics believe this state of grace was with Mary since her Immaculate Conception. This means that Mary was conceived in the normal way (not like Jesus) but that she did not inherit original sin.

God prepared her for her later role as the mother of Jesus.

Catholics celebrate this miracle on December 8 as the Feast of the Immaculate Conception.

http://www.nccbuscc.org/catechism/text/pt1sect2chpt2art3p2.htm#490

With love in Christ.

Answer 5

Pastor Billy says: has anyone else taken the time to examine Thomas' other questions? He isn't truly looking for answers from Catholics explaining the Christian faith at all.

"There are not a 100 people who hate the Catholic Church but there are millions who hate what they think it to be"
----Archbishop Fulton Sheen

"When one becomes a student of history one ceases to be Protestant"
--Cardinal John Henry Newman - (Evangelical Protestant convert)


Thomas a tip for you, quoting scripture is not the same as knowing scripture. Can you explain how Gal3:22 and 2Tim3:16 has anything to do with your question/accusation?

another tip Thomas, 2Tim3:16 is directed at Old Testament scripture alone. This was all they had at the time, the New Testament had not been completed or "known from childhood" read the verses before this one ;). Hope you don't intend to make this support for Sola Scriptura (bible alone).

since Thomas likes to sling scripture at others (out of context I might add) here's one for him as asker Thomas will not succeed in separating us from God's Catholic Church

St. Paul
Romans 8:38-39 For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing shall separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

St. Augustine
"[T]here are many other things which most properly can keep me in [the Catholic Church’s] bosom. The unanimity of peoples and nations keeps me here. Her authority, inaugurated in miracles, nourished by hope, augmented by love, and confirmed by her age, keeps me here. The succession of priests, from the very see of the apostle Peter, to whom the Lord, after his resurrection, gave the charge of feeding his sheep [John 21:15–17], up to the present episcopate, keeps me here. And last, the very name Catholic, which, not without reason, belongs to this Church alone, in the face of so many heretics, so much so that, although all heretics want to be called ‘Catholic,’ when a stranger inquires where the Catholic Church meets, none of the heretics would dare to point out his own basilica or house" (Against the Letter of Mani Called "The Foundation" 4:5 [A.D. 397]).

Answer 6

Apparently you don't believe in the New Testament. Paul is talking about the Scriptures that Timothy knew "from his youth," and would not have included any New Testament books. If you think that this verse teaches the sole sufficiency of Scripture, then you have to explain how the Bible can be sufficient without the New Testament.

Is the Table of Contents inspired?

Answer 7

you"re wrong . the catholic church is infallible. She was established by Christ himself. It is because of her authority that I read the Bible and believe it is the word of god.You protestants have no authority, you are religious anarchists, your authority is a pastor or yourselves.I believe in the Scriptures because the Catholic Church has shown me they were revealed by God.
And don"t forget that the books of the Bible you read were determined by the Holy Catholic Church (Congrats Marysia 4 your answer, well done)
As for Mary she has no sin, she was born immaculate, like ADAM and EVE(there you have little problem, Adam and eve were born without sin)The difference between Eve and my glorious mother is the fact that she remained faithful to God throughout her life.

Answer 8

each and every of the rhetoric aside, God is sovereign and all powerful. no one can rigidity God to save them, by potential of any potential, so salvation will constantly proceed to be a loose present. That mentioned, works are required to maintain God's regulation of affection, for faith devoid of works isn't purely "lifeless" ... it is likewise decidely no longer Christian. Catholics have constantly understood this. Protestants make an argument of it in a ineffective attempt to learn some form of benefit over Catholics, or to portray the Catholic church in a foul mild ... yet interior the tip, it purely makes protestants seem to be ignorant. perchance people who pick to believe lies, relatively are.

Answer 9

Why do we belittle other Christian in Faith that believe in the Holy Father and his son Jesus Christ who are we to judge who right and who wrong but I am talking to the blind that will never see the wrong I am typing

Answer 10

The Roman Catholic church got corrupted in the early Renaissance. They raised their traditions above the Scripture and decided that they, not the Bible, are the authority for the Christian church. Today, they have many teachings which are not found in scripture whether it be old testament or new testament. Thank goodness for men like Martin Luther who had the courage to speak up or we'd all be worshiping the Pope.

Answer 11

We believe in God, Jesus and the Bible and follow God's law.

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."

-Matthew 7:1-2

God Bless You