Why do Christians always point out that gay couples can't have children "naturally"....?

Question

....as if that "proves" that homosexuality is wrong?

Aside from the fact that a LOT of heterosexual couples also can't have children "naturally" (I'd say 40% if you add up infertile couples, couples past menopause, and so on), is making babies the ONLY reason to have a relationship with someone?

I love babies, but even if my BF was infertile and we were doomed to a childless life, I would never leave him. He's far too important to me to give up, even for babies. We'd adopt, or we'd adjust.

Why should gay people be seen as any different? Why should the "power to reproduce" show what God "wanted" except that, maybe, when people were first starting out, God "wanted" babies. Since Christians say that polygamy is wrong NOW because we don't need so many babies anymore (unlike back then when it was "right" to have many wives), maybe homosexuality is right NOW for the same reason - we're getting a tad crowded?

Jeff C, saying "It's wrong" does not address the question. I didn't ask if homosexuality is wrong. I asked why you always point out that they can't have children in order to "prove" it's wrong.

Amp, you're saying that polygamy was okay because it was a status symbol? That's very thoughtful of God to grant exceptions to popular sins. o_O

Not a single Christian poster has tried to Answer the question. Saying "the Bible says it's bad" had nothing to do with my question. Please don't post if you're not going to try to answer hte question that has been asked.

Answer 1

Humans love to contradict themselves. They are using a biological/scientific approach to debunk homosexuality. Yet, whenever you take a scientific look at anything else relating to Christianity, it's somehow not valid. Funny how that works.

Jeff, hate the sin, not the sinner. Also found in the Bible.
And yes, I'm Christian. It's not our place to judge what any homosexual is doing behind closed doors. That's their sin, that they must atone for. We have nothing to do with it.

Answer 2

There is no parallel between heterosexual couples who cannot have children “naturally” and homosexual couples who cannot have children “naturally” although at first blush it may seem that way to some. In the case of the former, infertility seems to be the problem – the inability of the woman to conceive and/or carry a child or the inability of the man to produce a seed that will have the woman conceive.

In the case of the latter, however, the couple cannot in any way reproduce because they are physically incapable of doing so without the outside assistance of a female (in the case of a male couple) or of a male (in the case of a female couple). In the case of the heterosexual couple, they can come together in sexual intimacy and, barring no infertility, conceive and reproduce. In the case of the homosexual couple, however, there is no way possible for them to come together in sexual intimacy and reproduce. It is literally and physically impossible for them to reproduce together and this impossibility has nothing to do with infertility of any sort.

Having said that, as a Christian, I have never used this inability to prove that homosexuality is wrong. There is more than enough in scripture to support the position that homosexuality is not pleasing to God without having to resort to the argument of the impossibility of reproduction. Still, one cannot dismiss this obvious point.

Hannah J Paul

Answer 3

They can't have children naturally but that is not my point about homosexual marriages.

My beef is how if you disagree with homosexuals you are homophobe or you are in favor of gay bashing.

Face it when put the public vote gay marriage keeps getting voted down.

Do you consider why?

Maybe you should consider how you are selling your message.

People don't like the courts shoving laws down people's throat.
Case in point: Abortion

Now you guys want to do the same with gay marriage.

That is just what we need another issue like abortion causing more divide in this nation.

You better apporach is start with civil contracts like in WI.

Let people get use to the idea.

There is no constitutional right to marriage. Save the court rulings.
The court also rule that slavery was OK too.

After listening to Mary Chenny and reading her book she would be a much better person to sell me on gay marriage than those who are demanding and shoving their views.

How about a reasonable debate or how about working through the system. That is how civil rights for blacks were pass.

Answer 4

Many times in the Bible God tells us that the Sodomites are sinners and once God kills all the Sodomites in Sodom and Gomorrah. (Sodomites are the homosexuals). God created 2 sexes, male and female for a particular reason. HE created humans in a specific design and homosexuals are telling God that His own design is wrong. That He screwed up somehow, somewhere along the way. Who are we mere humans to tell God that He messed up!?!?! God clearly states in the Bible the homosexuality is a sin, and He punishes these sinners many times throughout the Bible. And still has throughout history. God rewards the faithful and punishes the unfaithful. That the way He works. Get use to it.

Since God Himself says homosexuality is a sin, homosexuals being in a union with a family doesn't make it any more right. Yes, God wants humans to procreate. That why He created male and female do to so. Homosexuals adopting babies isn't what God wants either. They are raising that child in a tainted lifestyle and even though they maybe loved and cared for, God doesn't see favor in their 'parents'. Many times we have seen in the Bible, and throughout history that children carry the sins (the weight) of their parents on their shoulders throughout their lives. Other cultures believe curses follow the children and so on. Why should we allow homosexual to adopt children when they aren't allowed to legal marry? Then aren't their children 'bastards'? or something like that? Homosexuals use to have to be quiet about their sexuality and now they are all out and proud and gayness is like new lifestyle to try. It an open sin that society let out of the bag and it's running around free and it's tainting society. God isn't happy.

God designed male and female in a way to proceate and to be together. Gays are telling God that He messed up somewhere. They will have to face Him in the end. Just don't bring children into the picture.

Answer 5

I grant you that simply using the excuse that gay couples can't have children "naturally" is a pretty lame argument. I tend to look at things from what is right for the child. I would be as much against a single parent adopting a child as I would a gay couple.

While I have no doubt that the child can feel loved in those environments...which is certainly important...the decision to adopt a child, keep a child born out of wedlock, or invitro, whatever, should be based on whether you can give the child what HE/SHE needs, NOT because it makes YOU feel good.

For the child's growth and development as a functioning member of society he/she needs to have a two-parent heterosexual family. Children learn their basic sexual roles, how to interact in society, and how to become functioning partners in a future family based on the very early interactions they see as kids at home. They need a parent from each sex to understand those roles.

Answer 6

Christians often like to make statements without thinking through the answers they forget that certain aspects apply to everyone no matter their sexuality.
Because a book tells you its true they automatically designate it has being so.they are easily angered when its pointed out their book is full of contradictions. Having faith in something is great but being darn right rude and ignorant to anothers feelings is not christian the bible may be what they lead their life by but how about having some understanding for those of us who just dont want to hear about
A person's sexuality faith or lack of it is no one's buisness maybe if they wanted people to stop being rude they will stopbeing so cruel has to assume that everyone wants to be like them.
We in the world are getting overcrowded and this will continue if your different from someone else shouldnt that be a good thing and not a reason for condemning them

Answer 7

You're missing the point. Whether or not homosexuality is wrong is another topic. When they say that homosexuals can't reproduce, they are trying to show that homosexuality is outside the natural order.

Before you all thumbs-down me, I'm not saying that their arguments are right - I'm just clarifying their position.

Answer 8

The reason for GOD allowing many wife's is that it was a mark of wealth among the nations.
I do agree, however, as it's rather obvious that two men or two women can not have a baby.
However that does not alter what God said in Leviticus.
In the event you feel that it no longer applies that would mean God changed HIS mind.
Sure hope he doesn't on John 3:16.

Answer 9

First of all, I personally have nothing against homosexuals. It is not my place to judge anyone. I have no place to throw stones, I am a sinner as well. That being said, there is a reason that their is violence in the bible. All of the recipients of God's wrath, were either idolaters, or lustful people that were engaging in sexual perversions. It has been said in the bible(quite plainly in my opinion) that homosexuality is wrong and God views that as a sexual perversion.

Answer 10

by nature it is wrong. naturally people take a disliking to it sadly but true. people don't just have babies for a relationship you obviously have no idea how much it costs to have IVF treatment? and secondly woman where designed to go through pregnancy, men where designed to be stronger and protective, and to play a part in reproduction with woman. we where not designed like some frog we can't change sex over night. and if IVF is the only way to bring a baby in to a loving couples arms and knowing it will truly be wanted,THEN IT'S WORTH IT.

Answer 11

If you care to know what God thinks seek him through his word. If all that matters is what you think you have your answer. The Bible says there is a way that seems right to a man and this way ends in death.