Why are Messianics considered such "Bad People" ??

Question

I love G-d. I love Israel. I keep the feasts. I pray Shalom to Jerusalem. Is this not too bad for a Scottish born person?

I do NOT actively evangelize, or go pull Jews out of Judaism.

If they choose to walk in the Messianic synagogue, I will be honored to worship Yeshua beside them, out of both of our own free will. It is beautiful unity.

Why is this like the worst of all evils according to some?

Blessings
David T

Answer 1

Not jumping down your throat or anything, it just seems like you are a Christian who was raised Jewish and doesn't want to fully cut ties with his old religion...I am not going to say that it is the worst of evils, because it isn't--I am just trying to explain the reaction you get from many people. It may seem to them that you are a bit of a traitor--Jew in name, but Christian in creed and deed. Does that make sense?

Answer 2

The perception is that "Messianics" are parodying the Jewish faith, while "interpreting" everything in the light of their Christianity. It would be like Muslims having a "Christian" service with Bible readings, and a "Lord's Supper" but everything being enhanced through Muhammed's superior prophetic interpretation.

Several years ago, it was popular for Christian churches to hold "seders" to mark Passover and understand their religious roots a little better. But Jewish congregations objected, considering it culturally insensitive. It wasn't that they minded the attention, but the interpretation. When the matzoh was first split, Christians would all think, "Ah, this is the part where Jesus said, 'This is my body.' " See the problem? It's a Jewish observance. It shouldn't be given a Christian spin.

Christians can study and appreciate Jewish observances and customs, but the faiths are fundamentally different. People can be Christian or Jewish. Trying to be both seems dishonest.

Answer 3

May the Lord bless you! I am also praying for the peace of Jerusalem. Do not worry about what others think. The Lord is calling you to take a certain path! You are following in his footsteps!Remember, that the Lord was a Jewish rabbi, a practicing Jew! He followed the traditional Jewish feasts and traditions. We must follow in his footsteps and imitate him. Remember the persecution of the very first Christians who were also Jewish? All those that wish to follow Yeshua must expect to take up the cross.The servant is not greater than the master. It is not easy, but the Lord is always with us! May God bless you, David!

Answer 4

Messianic outreach to jews is seen as not being completely honest and straightforward. The idea being that before Jesus, the jews had a convenant with god ("old testament") whereas Jesus's teachings presented a new covenant between man/woman and god ("new testament").

I do not believe that the bias is towards Messianics. The bias is more towards the outreach that mentions that someone can be Jewish and believe in the "old testament" yet worship Jesus.

Answer 5

Speaking from the perspective of my own Judiaism.....

The Jewish faith believes that the MESSIAH has not yet arrived. For thos of christian and catholic faith the belief is that the messiah is the immaculate conception and the birth of baby Jesus.

Fundamentally, the messiancs are telling the Jews to believe something that is not existent from where they are sitting.

That would be like me looking at the color red and telling you that its purple. Red is red that's all there is to it. The Jewish faith is old testament point blank.

The messianics have not been around for very long in comparison to the other religions of Western Civilization. Additionally, most of us are brought up to believe in religion as part of our lives. To varying degrees, we observe based on our own personal feelings, taking into account where it fits in to our lives. For some its a huge part for others is a small piece of the puzzle.

Everything in moderation is always a good rule of thumb. Get just enough so your satisfied and want to come back for more. Immersing oneself in something or using it to escape or rid oneself of negativity is not healthy. Those who are orthodox have varying degrees of commitment. The Hassids (black hats, beards, pais--curls) are the ultra ultra orthodox and follow the religion to a T. There are others who observe the sabbath, go to synagogue, and observe kosher. They could be orthodox, conservative or reformed. There are people like me who were raised in a Kosher Home, Lit candles on friday night, observed the high holy days and were Bar Mitzvahed (accepted into the Jewish Community as an adult). Am I a sinner or outcast of my faith. NO. Will I be ignored or considered dead by my religious community. NO. My religious community respects those for who they are and what they can do. Thats the key. There are catholics who to church regularly but don't agree with everything the Vatican sends down. They too are respected in their communities. Try and take your worship to a catholic church or lutheran or episcopalian. Nothing doing.

As a conservative jew on the liberal side I believe that messianiacs who want to worship alongside Orthodox, Conservative, Reformed or Eglitarian, who by the way all believe the messiah has not yet arrived, is insulting and disrespectful. You are trying to merge two religious beliefs together. Also, think about what Hitler did. He tried to rid all of Europe of its Jewish population (and anyone for that matter who he felt didn't fit the arayan bill) Anyone who is being perceived as threatening the liveliehood of the Old Testament Jew is trying to basically get rid of the belief. If you want to practice as a messianic that is ur right and your business. Trying to recruit or mainstream your belief is inappropriate.

The faiths and sects whose religions are tried and true do not have to recruit. People come to worship under these religions on their own. If you have to recruit for worship that could send a message that your belief requires a hard sell.

Jews for Jesus (a radical messianic sect) conrtols their peoples lives and requires complete immersion and disassociation from anyone who is not part of the sect. Many people who feel scorned or judged by the Jewish faith turn to these hybrid type of groups. They are used to being accepted in a community that dictates what they believe and feel the need to belong.

As a conservative Jew I go to Synagogue when I like and enjoy the culture and values that my rumanian and middle eastern ancestors believed in as Jews. I dont feel pressured to belong or to assimilate nor do I agree with everthing in the jewish faith. Although it is extremly lassiez faire (hands off) and the beliefs are in the Torah (old testament) and cannot be changed or debated. Even the catholic church cannot say that, look at the abortion issue (people have been trying to get the church to loosen up forever). Also, the belief that a priest must take a vow of celibacy (there is a shortage of worship leaders because of this rule and it is under debate).

So now, my friend, do you understand the position of not being accepted? You are making a whole lot of statements that are insulting and threatening to us. Also, a Jewish person (notice i use the word messianiac to describe your religon with no indication of the word jew) who understand their faith and heritage and who is individual would not want to worship in a messianic prayer facility.

Answer 6

Part of what I have felt is that it is just a way to protect the Holy Land so that it will be there for the Christians to take over when the end of times is at hand. That is just a feeling I have, others seem to have better thoughts like.........

Lady Suri--you are so special !!!

Answer 7

One of my best friends is aJewish lady who had met Jesus and became a born-again believer. She then began to study her Jewish faith alonside her new faith in Christ. She honors all the holidays as best she can, both Jewish and Christian. I just love her, she's a wonderful lady in the Lord and can quote scripture out of both the Old and New Testements like nobody else. She is one of a few that I know and I have deep respect for all those I know.
( please excuse my spelling mistakes as my spell checker is out acting like it's possessed , the circle arrows keep spinning but and won't stop so I end up submitting my answers as is.)

Answer 8

Because according to Judaism, you are apostates. You are idolaters. You are not Jewish until you repent of our sins, yet you claim to be Jewish. You tell the world you are Jewish. You try to give information to non-Jews about Judaism when you usually know nothing about it or view it through a skewed lens. You pretend to be something you are not. Your religion was created by Xtian evangelists and yes, its purpose is to evangelize.

You claim to be something you're not. You also have this attitude like you're the "fulfillment of Judaism." You scorn Xtians for "not being more Jewish" yet you are not Jewish yourselves. You keep the feasts the way Xtians do and not the way the Jews do, which distorts the meaning and does not represent things correctly, if representing at all. You claim to be Judaism fulfilled, when in reality you're just idolaters defiling the real name of Judaism.

And they're not bad people. Messianic "Judaism" is the bad thing here.

Gabriel also said it, but was just nicer than me. Forgive me, this is a matter very close to my heart. There is a Messianic girl constantly trying to convert me and telling me that I'm going to hell because I'm not as Jewish as she is......yet I had to explain to her what Yom Kippur was. (just an example, i am not basing my opinion off of her)

Answer 9

I think it's only Ladi Suri who thinks so. Yet she can only say, "because". See? There's really no substance there.

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Well, at least I made her come back and give an answer, eh? And I still have to say .... there's really no substance there. Just a lot of anger.

Answer 10

I don't consider Messianics bad people..