What do you about giving Mexican illegals our Social Security money ?

Question

There are obvious reasons to oppose a Social Security totalization agreement with Mexico. First, our Social Security system already faces trillions of dollars in future shortages as the Baby Boomer generation retires and fewer young workers pay into the system. Adding hundreds of thousand of noncitizens to the Social Security rolls can only hasten the day of reckoning. What next, Social Security for Terrorist's ?

Answer 1

American citizens have been sold out. Mexico has taken over America without a shot and our government sat and watched. We have taxation without representation. Our fore fathers must be rolling over in their graves to see the mess our leaders have made of this country. All they care about is stuffing their own pockets.
crazybird- those elderly that are collecting social security have been paying into it for 20 years and longer. Those babies that are getting it are mostly illegals that shouldn't even be in this county. not to mention the illegals that are getting many other social services paid for by tax paying Americans.

Answer 2

Yes, I must admit this does suck. Even though I'm only 26, I've been working since I was 16 and paying into social security. Now it was bad enough when they told us there might not be hardly any SS by the time we hit retirement age, but now were giving money away to those who aren't even legal.

Through my taxes I pay into state benefits in which I'm ineligible for because I have a job. But those who are illegal can take full advantage of it. Explain something to me how can someone who's not suppose to be in the US to begin with enroll their children in school, apply for welfare, receive free medicare and whole lot of other things. Why won't any of these places pick up a phone and call immigration. The problem has a simple solution, if I'm wrong let me know.

Answer 3

This was basicly a "secret" agreement made from Bush to Fox. It was never presented or agreed to by the rest of the government or the people. This is the agenda that has done alot of "secret" agreements made between Mexico, the US and Canada.....the formation of the North American Union. I haven't heard anything concerning agreements between the US and Canada......but there seems to be ALOT between the US and Mexico.

It is a LIE to say that there isn't money in there for the baby boomers. The money was already put in there. Problem is.....they tapped into those "reserves" to cover expenses in other areas. They have always said they would put back what they took........problem is....they never did. They have "borrowed" from medicare for war expenses and everything. Used to be the "medicare fund" now it's the "medicare, medicade" fund. Which means that money that is needed for the birth and care of women and infant children.....is being taken from money set aside and paid in ,for the elderly. I mean....who cares about the elderly? What's "worth more".....and old sick person or a baby? Problem is....we've already paid in and planned for our futures expecting this. We didn't even have a choice as to whether or not we wanted to pay into this. They took it. It was a seperate thing. Now it's like "ooopppsss.....sorry, we blew it and tough luck for you". We've taken jobs promising pensions that have been lost. We've paid into Medicare which is lost. We are NOT A BURDEN, because we already put our money in!!!! They threw our money away for a moments "thing" and we're supposed to sit back and just "take it". You can't influx MILLIONS of babies from a foreign country and not take the money from someplace. They are making sure Medicare will go bankrupt in order to come up with a "new" program. Problem is.....what are we supposed to do? It's going to be the "drain" of the baby-boomers" fault......not the countless dollars spent on illegal immigrant anchor babies. I've paid already......I just expect it to be there when I need it. I've paid in to our social system. I never took a dime from it. But the thought of not having it there when I finally "need" it....tickes me off. Especially when a person can lie and claim after 18 mos. and I've paid in for 50 years!

Answer 4

If they are here now illegally, no way, they knowingly used a fake or stolen ID and SS card, and why just 18 mos, when it takes us 10 years, and no way should what they earned in Mexico count.----- Hey anyone think Bush might just have some Mexican blood, the way he tried to sneak it by us.

Answer 5

Social Security is not a welfare program. No person gets Social Security benefits unless he or a worker who is a close relative has paid in to the system. (For example, a widow could get benefits based on the contributions of her husband or a child of a deceased parent who paid into the system could benefits while he is still in school.).

If a person is in the United States illegally, he can be deported; and if he repeatedly enters the U.S. illegally, he can be prosecuted criminally. - but there is no reason to confiscate his paid for pension benefits.

Laws like this one are designed to protect people who work in more than one country during their working years and who might otherwise fail to qualify for Social Security benefits from either country. These kinds of laws could could even protect you if you worked outside the United States. Maybe you can't imagine working in Mexico, but suppose you worked for 8 years in the U.S. and then married a Canadian and moved to Canada, where you worked for the rest of your working life. Wouldn't you feel entitled to some kind of prorated benefits from each country when it came time to retire? I don't know if we have a treaty like the one you have complained about with Canada, but we should.

The agreement with Mexico is only intended to benefit people who were formally illegal immigrants who became legal through amnesty (which may never happen) or who became legal in some other way, or were legal in the first place but worked in both countries. - The agreement could be of financial benefit to our government. Suppose a person who is a legal U.S. resident works for 8 years in the U.S. and several years in Mexico and without the agreement would not qualify for benefits from either country when he reaches retirement age. Without the agreement, that person could end up on welfare in the U.S. with no contribution coming in from the Mexican Social Security System.

Prior to 1983, the Social Security was a pay as you go system where the younger generation paid for the retirement of the previous generation. But in 1983, congress recognized that the retirement of the baby boom generation would place an unfair burden on the next (smaller) generation of workers unless changes were made to the system. As a result of the 1983 reforms, the retirement age was scheduled to increase gradually to 67 to account for longer lifespans and social security (FICA) taxes were raised by about 1/3 to build up a real trust fund to help pay for the retirment of the baby boom generation. As a result the baby boomers became the first generation to pay for their parents' retirement while providing for their own as well. By one measure, the 1983 reforms have been wildly successful as the trust fund is now predicted to last at least until 2042, at which time most of the baby boomers will be dead. Even then the system will not be bankrupt - It will just have to go back to the pay as you go way of doing things that was in effect prior to 1983. The real problem is that congress has borrowed all the money in the social security trust fund, (over two trillion dollars) - every penny of which came from FICA taxes on the wages of working people and congress has no plan in place to pay it back when it is needed to help fund the retirement of the baby boom generation. Because the baby boom generation has not yet started to retire, this year congress will be able to suck more than 150 billion dollar in new surplus money out of the social security trust fund to spend on other things. Borrowing from the trust fund has masked the true size of the federal budget deficit and has made it easier for President Bush to give tax cuts to the rich. Now he wants to find a way to avoid paying back the trust fund so that he can preserve those tax cuts.

Ilegal aliens are just a distraction from the real issue. Don't be fooled.

Answer 6

Is he now? Are you particular? you would be able to desire to give up him in this experience a similar way as in the different. call your representative and tell him you do not help the bill. perhaps in case your representative in Congress here is that from sufficient of his parts he will vote against it. If sufficient human beings vote against it, it won't make it to the Pres. Its that easy. understand your rights.

Answer 7

Some illegal aliens are getting social security checks by getting doctors to label their kids as learning disabled.

Answer 8

Well Mexicans have a " if you dont fight for it you must not want, so I will take it from you with out asking, but when you want it back we will protest by the millions yea we lost our country . Victory goes to Mexico. Pleaase stop invading MY COUNTRY

Answer 9

That would be suicide to social security. Those illegals who STEAL our numbers literally pad the SS budget. Sad but true.

No benefits to those who stole our identities NO benefits!

Answer 10

I don't know how it is for the rest of you but it is starting to dawn on me that there is no limit. All will be taken from us as we sit and watch TV, eat burgrs, buy stuff from Walmart and keep our heads in the sand.
We will all as individuals, wake one day with little or nothing for our senior years. Then what?