The other day i was driving a road which i had never driven in the past. I seen the mobile unit ahead and there were no other vehicles near me. The road is not in a residential area but there are lamposts on the kerbside. There was no speed limit sign for at least 1 - 2 mile from the mobile unit. I understood the road to be a 40 mph and not the 30mph it turns out to be but there were no speed limit signs nearby. the unit also says that i was doing 51mph in this zone and i can safely say that there was no way i had achieved this speed over 100 - 150yds in my peugeot 307 1.4 90bhp from a stopped start. Can anyone suggest how i will defend this acusation? Wouldnt it make more sense for them to place a few more speed limit signs nearby to advise motorists what speed they should be doing? What course of action should i take?
2007-01-12 23:46:24 · 14 answers · asked by alexmcturk 1 in Politics & Government ➔ Law Enforcement & Police
Pay the fine and dont do it again...
2007-01-12 23:50:46 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 0⤋
You admit that you were going 40 miles in a 30 zone (most jurisdiction have a speed limit if not otherwise posted normally that is 30 or 35 miles per hour).
Be a man and pay the fine. The laws are there to protect YOU and the children playing in the area.
Would you rather pay a fine or else watch as the EMTs pull the mangled body of a child from underneath your car?
By the way for the peugeot 307 1.4 90bhp:
Acceleration 0-62 mph (sec) 12.8
0-1000m (sec) 34.5
2007-01-13 10:28:15 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Unfortunately, ignorance is no defence when it comes to the law. If you are in doubt about the speed in a built up area you must assume it is 30mph. I not sure how you can dispute 51mph. If you are saying that the police unit was 150yds from a traffic light which you stopped and there was no way you could have reached 51mph when you pased him, then you will need to go to court and present evidence. Perhaps he measured you speed prior to stopping at the lights, in which case you could have been doing 51mph. You will need to consider the cost of going to court against just paying the fine.
2007-01-13 07:57:40 · answer #3 · answered by Rowdy 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
the guide to the setting of safety camera is as follows....mobile enforcement camera and speed limit repeaters signs must be placed in advance of the point of entry to the site or route camera signs must be placed thereafter at intervals of around 1km throughout the site or route.
I am contesting my case at the moment, 37mph in a 30mph limit, I'm not saying I'm innocent of speeding, but if the police are going to set these traps, they should adhere to the law, in my case i don't think they have as there were no 30mph signs within 2km of the site, and no safety camera sign's either. as for some of the answer's to your question, are people just that apathetic that they allow the police to abuse their powers and they will just accept it. I'm seeking legal advise, suggest you do the same. This is just a way for police and councils to collect more money and as for the lamp post ruling this is crap, as there are signpost all over the place and not just in built up area's and one road just round the corner from where i live goes from 30mph 40mph 50mph60mph and then back to 30mph all in under half a mile Why ?
2007-01-17 07:49:12 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
your assertion that you cannot accellerate to 50mph in 150 yards is preposterous. i can do better than that in an 18 yr old diesel volvo!
the law requires you to break the speed limit for 3 tenths of a mile, or 520 feet. or it used to, until we got gatsos and road markings.
and ignorance (or what you thought) is irrelavent... the coppers decided that you were paying the price today..tommorow itll be someone else... your generating revenue for gordon... get used to it, or as i would honestly say; try paying attention to the road.
with these newer cars, all insulated and quiet, its so easy to find yourself doing 60 in a 30... or 95 on a motorway...
so, plead guilty, cough it, as its the only cheap option, and take your punishment. yes its a pain the the aarse, but the alternatives are far more costly.
2007-01-13 08:03:04 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
You can't defend it. Even if you were doing 40mph you would still be at 133% of the speed limit.
The spacing of the lamp posts tells you the speed limit is 30mph in the absence of any other markings or road signs. If you don't know that from your highway code then you shouldn't be driving.
Just think: if you'd hit a pedestrian going at that speed you would have killed them.
2007-01-13 07:53:34 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
There are a tiny number of false readings which are usually a result of radar reflection from the edge of the wheel, resulting in a reading of 2x your speed, in this case 26mph.
However, you're highly unlikely to prove it since you'd need other evidence to support this claim.
Plead guilty and minimise the damage.
2007-01-13 07:59:43 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
This argument would only piss off a judge and raise the fine and add court fees, send in the money. On the other hand, pay a lawyer a LOT of money to say that for you and maybe not get fined.
2007-01-13 07:57:54 · answer #8 · answered by Outside the box 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
lamposts= 30 mph speed limit i think you should redo your diving test from scratch and read the highway code book to refresh your memory
2007-01-13 07:54:10 · answer #9 · answered by missree 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
your own fault really its in your test that where there are street lights and no signs its 30mph. if you were at a stopped start why didnt you just stay at 30 if you saw it. seems a bit silly really to even chance it
2007-01-13 07:53:22 · answer #10 · answered by Daniel_Son_Bonsai 4 · 3⤊ 0⤋
you can always ask for a callibration, if they dont send you one within28 days i think it is, case closed? but if they do its pay up?
2007-01-13 07:57:36 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋