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{first of all i consider myself a christian, although many of you do not}

1) If a gay man went to church all his life believed in everything, accepted Jesus and all, would he go to heaven or hell? why or why not?

2) Will a Jew go to heaven or hell? why or why not?


i just wanted to know what many of you thought on here, please dont be rude like all the other times yall answered my questions!
thanks

2007-01-12 19:30:43 · 29 answers · asked by heather feather 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

29 answers

Any person who has truly accepted Christ as His Savior will go to heaven and a person can never lose his salvation.

Remember the two criminals who were crucified at the same time as Jesus and one hurled insults at Jesus while the other one asked Jesus to remember Him. Jesus told him that because of his belief he would be in paradise that night. The gay man is living in sin just as a man who may be cheating on his wife is living in sin.

Only God can tell by the heart which man will go to heaven and which man He'll claim to not know. You cannot be ashamed of the Gospel and then expect God to not be ashamed of you.

When we accept Christ as our Savior, that very second, the Holy Spirit enters our heart. As said, only God knows for sure if the heart has truly surrendered to Christ, and there are times He knows better than us as we are known to have denial and not know our own hearts as may think we do.

It is the Holy Spirit that convicts us of sin and we can choose to listen to it or we can ignore it. The more we ignore it, the quieter the voice becomes until we no longer hear it, however, once a person is saved, truly saved, they can never stifle the voice completely. There will always be a sense of guilt. The guilt is not from any form of brainwashing or "religious rantings & ravings" it is just that, the Holy Spirit telling us we ither did wrong or we are doing wrong.

Whatever is in the Bible is God's correct and current holy word. Out of every relgion there is, the Christian God, the one and true God, has never changed. The Mormons have had very important significant changes, the Catholics have had many, Jehova's Witnesses many, many changes, and the list goes on, but as for God, there has never been one change.

God is the same today as He was yesterday, and He will be the same tomorrow. We can be assured that what His word says will remain the same and only a false prophet will try to change anything that is written in the Bible or to try and add something to the Bible, such as well, its now 2007 and the politically correct way is to accept homosexuality and abortions. That will never happen, unless as I said, its a false prophet.

When I accepted Christ at the age of 15, some might say it could not have been a true accpetance because I went on to become a drug addict, an alcoholic, had abortions, and lived a very promiscuous lifestyle. I was involved in everything you can imagine.

I sobered up in 1984 after going thru long term treatment and four years later, I was on my knees surrendering my life to Christ and saying even sober, Lord, I cannot do this without you (this was just living). I never worried about the fact as to when was I truly saved, at the age of 15 or 34? All that mattered to me was that I was saved, I was a born-again Christain.

Yet, it took another 7 months before I finally developed a hunger to know more about God and just really who was Jesus? I knew He was God's Son and that was all I knew. I had never had a relationship with Him, but now all of a sudden I had this humongous desire to know everything I could about Him and to live my life accordingly.

Without me being completely aware of it (I knew some), my life had already begun to change. I was changing, my attitude, my way of thinking, my behavior, my manner of dressing was becoming more conservative, nor was I telling or listening to dirty jokes anymore.

But most of all was this incurable hunger to learn more. When I got out of church on Sunday morning, I couldn't wait for Sunday night, when I got out on Sunday night, I couldn't wait for Wednesday night and in between all those times, I listened to the Christian radio station, read my Bible, prayed, and socialized with other Christians (Christian fellowship), which I've learned the hard way that Christian fellowship is essential to a Christian because God helps us through His people. Trust me, without going into that story, I am right now and have been suffering the consequences of having walked away from my church family. It ended up costing me $60,000 among other things.

Anyway, the point I'm trying to make, I believe I was saved when I was 15 at a church camp, but since I was living in a foster home, I had no opportunities to go to church on a regular basis. Therefore, I never grew as a Christain and I had no mentor to help and guide me, so I stayed a baby Christain and had I died then or when I was older, an alcoholic & drug addict, and maybe even in a stranger's bed, I would have still gone to heaven.

From the time I was I was 15 until I was 34, I never read the Bible, never went to church, never prayed, unless I was hurting and needed somthing, and without all thesse things, it is impossible to have any kind of a relationship with God or Jesus. Likewise, in your own home, if you never talk to your parents or your spouse, if you go thru each day ignoring them, you are going to have a lousy relationship. Same thing with Jesus. If you don't talk to Him and try to learn anything about Him, the relationship will suffer and not grow.

However, as I said, I do not believe God would hold me accountable for staying a baby at that time, even though His words says we will be held accountable for not learning and maturing in His word. At that age I was still under so much control of others, authorities, foster parents, etc, that I could not help it if I didn't grow, nor did I even understand that there was anything I needed to grow in. I had accepted Christ, how could there be more than that?

Homosexuality is wrong. We know its wrong because God says so. Stealing is wrong, lying is wrong, adultery is wrong, murder is wrong, yet people can do these acts and still go to heaven. If they did it before they ever accepted Christ, then upon asking Jesus into their heart, they become a totally new person.

2 Corinthians 5:17 (King James Version)

17Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

2 Corinthians 5:15-21

15. And he died for all, that those who live should no longer live for themselves but for him who died for them and was raised again.

16 So from now on we regard no one from a worldly point of view. Though we once regarded Christ in this way, we do so no longer.

17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!

18 All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation:

19 that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting men's sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation.

20 We are therefore Christ's ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ's behalf: Be reconciled to God.

21 God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.



Verse 16 identifies how we once looked at spiritual things. We are like on the outside looking in trhough a window. We see that things are different in there but we don't understand it until we walk inside. Once we are inside, we see things differently than we did when we were on the outside looking in. We didn't look for that to happen, much of it just happened the very second we walked in and the rest comes thru prayer, Bible study and Christain fellowship.

Now we look out thru the window from the inside and we see the people looking in and we see them differently also, not like how we once did when we were out there. Most of all we see Jesus differently.

Verse 17 is the biggie. Once we accept Christ, it doesn't matter who you are, once you accept Him and surrender your life to Him, we will become a new person, the old has gone and the new comes in. Meaning the things we did in the past that are not pleasing to God, are over and done with, and no longer do we need to feel guilt or shame because we are a new person.

None of us are perfect and many times we will fall. For example, if I had a shoplifting problem before Christ, and I know its wrong, I'm going to feel guilty, maybe just a little, maybe a bit more, or maybe a whole lot. It all depends upon how hard my heart has become.

But once I accept Christ and as I'm going thru the act of accepting Him, there is true remorse over what I've done, and I see it as a sin. That is why many people will sob and sob when they accept Christ. It means the old is leaving them and the new is coming. They feel remorese for their sins and they repent. Without repentance there can be no forgiveness and that is the key to salvation, being forgiven for our sins.

We cannot become a Christain and deny that some of our behaviors are sinful or pick and choose what commands we want to keep. That is not a heart that is accepting Christ, it is still a rebellious heart.

Going back to my shoplifting problem, when I accepted Christ, I asked for God to forgive me and I truly meant it, my heart filled with grief and remorse. And then a couple of weeks later, or six months later, or two years later, I start shoplifting again. The first time, I feel all this guilt as the Holy Spirit makes the attempt to make me feel guilty so I may go before the Lord and repent, but I don't want to because I know I'm going to do it again and I do. Once again the Holy Spirit will try to put me back on track for tru repentance but I ignore the calling and in order to do this, I have to harden my heart. If I die during this time, I will go to heaven, my rewards will be less, but at least I'll be in heaven.

My mother has the sttitude that she can do whatever she wants as her sins have all been forgotten so it doesn't matter what she does. This is not true, because again, there has to be a true repentance.

With repentance and remorse, I forget which one, maybe both, the Greek word or Hebrew word means to turn away. If you say, tomorrow I'm going to steal this shirt that is not repentance but rather wilful deliberate sinning.

This has gotten way too long and I'm so sleepy, I can't even keep my eyes open.
. The bottom line is that God knows the heart. Basically, with an adult, and as far as homosexuality is concerned, we know the Bible speaks out against it, thus, I cannot imagine a person getting saved and still continuing with no bad feelings at all, or even worse just saying, well that doesn't matter.

Even if they don't understand right away, very soon after being saved, they will be put under conviction that what they are doing is wrong. It cannot be hung onto and say this small part doesn't count. It counts very much.

Once a gay man accepts Christ, he has to turn away from a sinful life and if he refuses, there is a ppretty good chance that it was not a true acceptance of Christ because when we accept, we are humble and filled with remorese over all we've done. It can get started back up again, but if the man was truly saved, he will always feel guilty until he lets go of that sin.

A Jew will go to heaven as long as he has accepted Christ. That is the only way anyone can go to heaven is thru the acceptance of Christ. Put into a search engine, the Roman steps and follow one of the links to pull them up and then read those.

There is an organization called Jews for Christ, and these are Jews that have all accepted Christ and are trying to win other Jews to Christ. But even though the Jews are God's special people, they still have to accept Christ just like anyone else to go to heaven.

I'm glad my answer will be last so people don't get mad trying to scan to the bottom of my answer if they are trying to read answers. If I was not so sleepy I would try to edit it down and maybe I will tomorrow after submitting it and when I can see. Please excuse the typos..

2007-01-12 22:31:38 · answer #1 · answered by Child of Abba 2 · 1 0

God calls homosexuality an abomination. How can someone who is a Christian, claims Jesus died on the cross for his sins, and claims to have be repentant of all sins still be a homosexual ? Understand the attraction is not the sin the act is the sin. If the person doesn't feel the sin is wrong they are not under the conviction of God therefore their salvation must be in doubt.

Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them.

Will a Jew go to Heaven ? Yes if the Jew accepts Jesus Christ as thier Lord and Savior, no if they reject Christ.

Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

No man includes the Jews

2007-01-13 03:56:45 · answer #2 · answered by Tim P 2 · 1 0

1.) Yes/No? Is he a "practicing" gay? A person could go to church 24/7, it would not matter. Church doesn't save, Christ does. If this person was a true Christian he would do everything in his power to be pleasing to the Lord. A Christian is a new creature, with new thoughts and actions. Only God can read hearts and mind and He is the judge. The fact remains that this gay man would not remain gay; knowing it is a detestable abomination before the Lord. He would grow in faith to deny himself, pick up his own cross, and follow God. A person after they have tasted life, would not return to death. If they did, the true life, which is the Holy Spirit was not ever in them. I reject the philosophy that one can become a Christian and yet remain in their sin, a sin they wantonly commit daily, over and over, the same sin. We all sin daily, but we turn from that sin and grow in faith.

2.) Jesus Christ is the way, and the truth, and the life. No soul will enter heaven without the Son.

2007-01-13 03:45:45 · answer #3 · answered by JohnC 5 · 2 0

1) If the gay has stop sinning, and no longer engage in Homosexual relationship, as the Bible have mentioned, he will be accepted.

Homosexual (gay) is not a mortal sin. It is pardonable.

2) Jews can go heaven, when they confess Jesus as their Lord. Romans 11 is rather clear on that. Paul even willing to exchange the salvation of them, if it is possible. In the bible, only another person willing to do that for Jews, that is Moses.
(Of cause Jesus did that).

There is a group who believe in DIspensational Theory, which taught that Salvation is 2 track, one for Jews, another for Gentile. Mainly the American.

This group believe that Land is still important to Jews,and supported the fight with Muslim.

Personally, I am against this theory. Moreover, Muslim is also another human who need Jesus. There is no such things as religion enemy, and salvation is only one way.

2007-01-13 03:51:25 · answer #4 · answered by Melvin C 5 · 1 0

I'm no longer a Christian, but I can tell you that different Christian groups believe differently on these things.

1. Not all churches think that gays are Hell-bound. There are a number of churches that are gay-friendly.

2. There are some Christians not only think that a Jew CAN go to Heaven, but that Jews are GUARANTEED a walk through the pearly gates. Must be nice...

2007-01-13 03:36:41 · answer #5 · answered by Weird Darryl 6 · 1 2

The bible also says that man cannot serve two masters,he will love one and hate the other,Gays blame nature when if they were to be honest they would admit its a a social disease,They are angry at God and God didnt do a thing to them.
Gays will see the truth.

Jews,buddists and all the rest probably will go the heaven,It says in the bible that to him that is given more ,more is expected,
Christians have been given more,less is expected of the others.

Theres probably a whole department in heaven that deals with this stuff.

2007-01-13 04:17:18 · answer #6 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

1) This answer depends on his walk with God. If he walks away from the sin of qreerdom, and actually is born again he can indeed be saved. and Can go to heaven and remain in heaven.
If he claims salvation but does not come out of qreerdom then he is indeed not saved because he is not convicted to come out of that sin, which is what the Holy Spirit does in a person.

2) Same thing for the jews it reallys about the sin nature on a person life. Were people remain in sin there is not a conviction of sin by the Holy Spirit and these are lost having not overcome sin and thus they have spot and blemish. We are given a opertunity unto salvation via the new birth but like with anygood thing you can cast off your salvation by sinning and sinning and then by refusing the leadership of Holy Spirit. After a time God will no longer call out to you and convict you of your sin that you shall be found in your sin and cast out into darkness and be lost.
Salvation is a free gift to us it cost God everything, But you also have a responsibility after coming to know the word of God and his mercy. Today church tries to claim once saved always saved. They denounce the book of hebrews and most of the new testiment as to what is said about salvaiton.
Jesus has paid for the sins of the whole world. Even the sins of the lost. People today go to sheol for rejecting the offer of salvation. This is the unpardenable sin. But the unpardenable sin is also rejection of leadership of the Holy Spirit and speakign against his work and his teaching. The church does not teach you that today. So lets say you are living in sin and die. And have not repented of your sin. And you were being lead to repent of your sin by the holy spirit and you died. The actual sin is disobidence to the leading of the Holy Spirit. Will you be saved. Many in that day will come before me and say Lord Lord and i will say depart from me for you knew me not you workers of lawlessness. Jesus is making a large statement here. What the Holy Spirit declares is law just like when the Father speaks. So if the Holy Spirit is telling you not to do this or that. It is a royal decree and is subject to Judgement via God. So have you worked out your salvation with fear and trembling.

2007-01-13 04:00:37 · answer #7 · answered by Thomas A 2 · 1 0

If a man went to church and followed the teachings of Christ, HE WOULD NOT BE GAY !!! If a man is gay and does not repent, he will burn for his sins. This is truth. It is Biblical. You claim to be Christian, and do not know this? Being a jew does not make a difference. Christ is no respecter of persons. If a jew accepts Jesus Christ as his or her personal lord and savior, and lives for Christ, then he or she will see the kingdom of God.
It is all about Jesus, and His teachings. Nothing else. For all of you talking about not judging, it is not me, but the Holy Word of God that judges, and rightly so. We are allowed as Christians to point out these judgements that are in the Word. It is in fact, our responsibility to do so.

2007-01-13 03:51:20 · answer #8 · answered by Darryl L 4 · 2 1

One of the things I love about being a Christian is I don't know who is going to heaven or hell because God didn't give me that kind of power or knowledge. Some Christians think they have the right to place people here or there, but they don't. God is a loving God, and I trust Him to be fair and just with everyone. It's none of my business how other people live. I have enough going on in my life, and I don't have time to walk around thinking I'm the ultimate authority and judge of the morality of everyone else. Since I'm a Christian, I attend church regularly, and there have been "Christians" over the years who have passed judgment (unsolicited) on something I have said or done, and I can assure you that I made them wish they had never been born. I don't tolerate that kind of attitude or that kind of person, and I wouldn't expect anyone to tolerate it from me either.

2007-01-13 03:42:26 · answer #9 · answered by No Shortage 7 · 2 2

The question you are asking is something that none of us can judge. It is clearly written in the Bible about the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. God destroyed them because they were gay. To God this is an abomination and fornication. As far as Jews go, they are God's chosen people, but in the Bible it is clearly written that no one can enter the Kingdom of God unless they are born again and also that they have to go through Jesus. Sorry, no offense but this is what the Bible says. Here is a website that tells some really good information about the subjects of gays, and all the other things you ask.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com

2007-01-13 03:44:07 · answer #10 · answered by Dakota Lynn Takes Gun 6 · 2 1

I have no intention of being rude.
The reason christians are intollerant of gay people is because it says in the bible how God created love/sex all that stuff for men and women. If you read about Adam and Eve's relationship you'll udnerstand more about this.
Now to be a christian, you have to beleive in Christ, and all he stood for, (Basicly the whole bible.) And you have to admit that you're only human, and you go against God's law. (The bible.) And that Jesus dying to pay for all that sin is the only way you can
get it erased so you can make it into heaven.
So if the gay guy beleive everything, but still denied that being gay was a sin, he wouldn't be admitting his sins fully. And unfortunetly
he wouldn't be able to make it into heaven.

I hope that clears things up for ya.

And Jews also go to hell because they don't recognize Jesus as the savior.

2007-01-13 03:41:51 · answer #11 · answered by Seth A 1 · 1 2

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