is slavery good or bad?, god or jesus didnt mind?

Question

Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ. Eph.6:5

Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters, and to please them well in all things; not answering again; Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things. Titus 2:10-11

Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward. 1 Pet.2:18
Exodus Chapter 21, verse 1:

Now these are the ordinances which you shall set before them. When you buy a Hebrew slave, he shall serve six years, and in the seventh he shall go out free, for nothing. If he comes in single, he shall go out single; if he comes in married, then his wife shall go out with him. If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the wife and her children shall be her master's and he shall go out alone.

please dont be a hypocrite and say dont take the bible literaly

these are just a few examples, there is a lot more

nice try brad, they were not servants in biblical times they did not get paid

but what about the slaves of wars brad they all were not just broke just handing themselves over

all excuses they were slaves, point blank they were not happy servants people, didnt you hear about the slave wars of rhome

only a handful were freed it is written not just in the bible but in old text

nice try brad there was race problems with slaves

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Answer 1

God did object that's why there are no more slaves chubby.

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Answer 2

I thought the problem with the Bible was that it was made by man and the teaching of Jesus to man. However, Jesus, himself didn't write it....so hence it would be compared to the telephone game.
If someone were to tell someone else and so on and so on....don't you think they would get their stories mixed up. Whose to say that those were the exact words from Jesus or God. The disciples didn't take notes they went back to their homes and "recalled" their teachings.

Also, I thought Biblical text was to be translated as the way that person sees fit. Maybe the scholars translated servants wrong maybe it was suppose to be a different word. It doesn't matter anyways cuz according to one of the Ten Commandments as presented by God to Moses..... DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU. so why would slaves have it bad if the master's themselves would want to be treated good.

Slavery in it's context form could be either good or bad. The Romans and Greeks didn't seem to have a problem with it, in fact, some slaves had it pretty nice. Now later on...when Europe went through it's crisis stage then slavery got a bad rap and has been considered horrendous ever since. Thats just my opinion.

Answer 3

Those scriptures didn't really say whether slavery was good or bad, it just gave guideline for behavior for people in that situation, the servants actually, except for the last one. The last one describes a sort of indentured servitude. A form of slavery, sure, but slavery got much worse for a lot of people. And it tells the master how to be a good master. I'm guessing that was the Old Testament.
But yeah, there was slavery during Biblical times. I bet there's even references to it outside of the bible.
The truth is, because of Christianity, slavery has ended all over the world. Don't take my word for it, read your history books. A lot of people would like to blame Christians for slavery, but it was a movement in Britain and other European nations, led by Christian conservatives that ultimately led to the end of slavery all over the world. Imperialism may be bad, but because Britain had a huge Empire it was able to wield it's power to convince other nations in the world to end the practice.
Likewise, Slavery may be bad, but it was the way it was then, and for a long time afterwards. Slavery was an accepted thing for people of all faiths (or lack of) all over the world. And yes, sometimes slaves were mistreated, but some were treated well, and were happy with there lives, believe it or not.
In case your wondering, Christians didn't invent slavery, or war, or power. Christians weren't the worst at abusing those things either.

Answer 4

Jesus did not make a judgement about slavery. Servants are not the same as slaves. Ephesians was not written by Christ, and those are not His words. Same with Titus. The laws of Moses were plagiarized from his father-in-law, a Zoroastrian. In addition, slavery in the sense that we understand it, was not always a forced-labor, fear-based system, and did not have the same connotation it does today. Slave was a social status in many societies, meaning those who had no means of supporting themselves, and resorted to renting or selling their labor in exchange for "room and board". They were treated as servants, no different than one would treat a maid, and in some cases, their status was raised over time. In another sense, we are all servants, constitutionally. We are servants of God, and we are always serving someone. Bob Dylan wrote: You got to serve somebody. Our parents, teachers, spouse, boss, children, the state. We are all servants. The illusion is that we think we are not servants. We even serve our bodies. We can say otherwise, but soon you will have to go to the bathroom, and you will stop what you are doing and obey the body.

Answer 5

My friend in India has 40 servants/slaves working at his home daily.

Does this make Hinduism wrong as well?

It was a common thing. Servants are not like how you think of a slave in the Old SOuth. Its a job poor do for the rich. Still goes on in much of the world, but not the Christian world.

David T

Answer 6

What's even funnier is he even places values on them. 30 shekels of silver according to God's word. Now by today's standards 30 shekels translates to $7.10 American. Now maybe in the bronze age $7.10 was a lot of money but by today's standards in many states that's little more than 1 hour's worth of salary let alone serving for six years.


Now pretty much any ethical society has abolished slavery but yet here we have a divine loving and caring being condoning slavery and dividing up families. This sounds pretty barbaric to me. As you can see stuff like this is why the Xtians try to downplay the old testament lest thy God be exposed as a racist crank.

Even funnier is watching the Kool-Aid drinker's trying to say "it wasn't the same". Just like the nazis at Nuremburg. "I vas only following orders". And of course they backpeddle when the words of their own bible are being used against them claiming God didn't write it yet whenever it's in their own favor we have "the bible is the word of God". Sorry you can't have it both ways Xtians it either is or it isn't.

Answer 7

I've said it before and I'll say it again. show me which of those lines that God came down and wrote himself, or which ones Christ wrote for us and I will gladly listen to your childish ranting. Since people wrote all of this without God sitting there dictating verbatum for them you will always have to remeber that people are free to write whatever they want. The spanish inqusition was done as the "will of God", but I don't recall any account of God being there to give instructions. that was the acts of men, and therefore leave God out of it. You also forgot to mention that these scriptures where translated several times over the cenuries, and the romans got to write their 2 cents into this. since Rome was big on slave trade and quick to add their views to others religions I'll make a safe wager that they helped with some of this.

Answer 8

slaves in those times is different from slaves nowadays. In the quotations from the bible that you got slaves there means servants who serve God. Not as in a slave serving man. It means the people to be obedient to their Lord God. If God did not mind it why bring Moses to free His people from the Egyptians? and God did not write the bible men did and how sure are we that the translations are good.

Answer 9

Slavery of itself is not bad. Many people thorughout history have given themselves as indemntured slaves. They have sold themselves for a time to achieve a goal, to borrow some money and things like that.

When you lump all slavery together, it make it difficult to understand.

The Bible speaks about a slave which St. Paul sent back to his master but told the master to treat him as a brother.
The Jews held their neighbors as slaves sometimes but had to realease them in the seventh year.

But many wicked people have treated slaves as if they were animals. God never approved of this.

Answer 10

Yes but the present day meaning of a slave is much much different than a biblical "slave" - its closer to meaning servant.
In Bible times, slavery was more of a social status. People sold themselves as slaves when they could not pay their debts or provide for their family-more like an indentured servant. In New Testament times, sometimes doctors, lawyers, even politicians were slaves of someone else. Some people actually chose to be slaves so as to have all their needs provided for by their master.
The slavery of the past few centuries was often based exclusively on skin color. Black people were considered slaves because of their nationality – many slave owners truly believed black people to be “inferior human beings” to white people. The Bible most definitely does condemn race-based slavery.
You are trying to lump together call kinds of servanthood and slavery into what we saw in America with the South, but this is simply not the case.

I doubt youve even read the whole bible and looked up historically what this all means anyway

Answer 11

I agree with Brad about the meaning of slave in today's context versus in the Bible. It's better to live by and quote the Bible if you can have a full understanding of it... not a blind view of just the words. This book comes from God and it has more meaning to it then just an average person will ever see.