i love you. ive been sending out things like this on why ppl dont believe when there are SOME evidence. im 14 yrs old
i believe in god and he DOES make myracles and a similar story happened with my mom but different subject-
my mom one day was driving and god sent a CLEAR image/picture to her while she was driving about who her husband has been cheating on[her name is Debbie]. my mom never met this woman that god sent the picture of to her, but she's seen her and knew that that was a neighbor of her today's present husband[my dad] and so they've been trying to figure out all this time who it was my mom's husband was cheeting on. and its amazing how what my mom had saw was true and she had been right when she had reported it to somebody-i think the police? and that's why she got a divorce with her second husband and married my dad.
this is wierd but this is how it is- my mom's 2nd husband cheated on her for a woman named Debbie who is MY dad's wife.
now, debbie's exhusband is married to my mom and the guy who cheated on my mom is still cheating on other people. =[ bad
but thanks for posting that because it is true. there's so many unbelievers!!!! its making me angry because i care soo much about them and they just give up and choose to not believe in god.
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this is just to let you know for fun---- ppl usually dont believe in god because the way god is describbed is hard to believe. like he was never created by anyone. he's just always been there and ppl are like- but he HAS to be created somehow! really he doesn't. god is suppose to be undefined because he is GOD. if we can define god, then he Isn't god!!
the reason why ppl keep asking how god existed- there is no answer because that question would go on and on and on and they'll be like- then who created god? who created whoever created god and so on. that's y there's only one god and he's always been here- he is eternal. that is the only thing that makes sense. no one created god. god is the one who basically created himself but not really cuz he's always been who he is
2007-01-12 16:24:52
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answered by Anonymous
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Kindly show some documentation of the above "eye" growing back, and doing so in a functional manner. I'd appreciate it.
As far as people surviving "against odds", the human body is designed to survive "against odds". The human body can at times rally defenses against illness. It can survive harsh environments. Some have special abilities to ignore pain. Some, like my daughter have overcome cancer without treatment. Does this mean there is necessarily a God? I don't think so.
That's not to say I don't believe in deity. I'm a Wiccan, and believe in dety wholly. I believe in answered prayer. The point is that I just don't think that what we see here on Earth can PROVE that deity exists.
I've seen claims of people resurrected after being dead for one or more days. I've never seen verified documentation of such.
I've seen many claims of miracles debunked.
An eye, removed at two in a woman (from your description I'm assuming an adult) regrowing (not regrown) doesn't sound reliable to me. If at some point she has a working eye, and not a growth behind her eyelid, I'll be quite impressed. This would be, if documented properly, the sort of miracle that would impress most detractors. None have yet come fort with a regrown limb or major organ. (tonsils don't count)
2007-01-12 23:28:24
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answered by Deirdre H 7
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Why has there been so many people who were dying but then survived when the odds were all against them...
My question is:
Why has there been so many people who were healthy and fine but then died suddenly when the odds were all against it?
Personally, I like odds, and they tend to work in my favor, and I'm an atheist. So odds and god have no direct correlation
As for the women growing her eye back, why does this not surprise me? Because that's what the body does! It heals it's wounds! Prayer and ministry? Prove to me that they had anything to do with it at all!
2007-01-12 23:18:13
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answered by Ghost Wolf 6
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LOL. You'll believe anything, won't you?
Put me down in the same category as Stanton. If there were miracles happening as a result of prayer, I'd believe. The fact that there are gullible people who say there are miracles happening as a result of prayer doesn't convince me of anything except that there are really gullible people out there.
Later: Okay, so let's summarize what you just did. You lied by making up fake evidence that god exists, and then told us that you'll pray for us to find the truth.
Can you see why we don't think much of believers' morality?
2007-01-12 23:17:06
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answered by Anonymous
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So, would you care to provide documentation of her recovering eye? A few medical documents shouldn't be so hard to provide if this is true. Cite the reputable medical journal that is reporting on this. Even one citation would suffice.
And you say the odds were against it... and yet, by saying that, you are admitting a chance that they WOULD survive anyways... but yet you attribute it to god. The odds of me winning a 6 ball, 40 number lottery is 1 in .... 3838380. Does this mean no one ever wins the 6 ball 40 number lottery?
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Okay, you don't have medical journal citations, I'll accept that. But even still, I'll give you another possibility. Have this woman have three doctors individually sign separate copies of her medical records, attesting to that this 'miracle' is actually happening, and have each of the three documents notarized by a Notary Public. Then post these documents, including the notary's names and the doctor's names, for independant verification.
Can you provide these?
Or are you basically saying, "But there's a miracle, believe it because I say it!" You lost the credibility to say that the moment you claimed it was a miracle, so the burden of proof is on you.
I don't fear your deity, by the way, nor your hell. They're quite fake. So mentioning them didn't help your credibility much either.
2007-01-12 23:15:05
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answered by Anonymous
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"the odds were against them? A single condition that has a 5% recovery rate and affects 10,000 people a year would result in 500 "miracles".
Prayer doesn't work - see this American Heart Journal study:
http://www.ahjonline.com/article/PIIS0002870305006484/fulltext?browse_volume=151&issue_key=TOC%40%40JOURNALSNOSUPP%40YMHJ%400151%400004&issue_preview=no&select1=no&select1=no&vol=
Things sometimes happen that we don't fully understand - that doesn't mean any gods are involved, not even yours.
Believing in god is like believing the the celestial teapot:
Russell's teapot, sometimes called the Celestial Teapot, was an analogy first coined by the philosopher Bertrand Russell, intended to refute the idea that the burden of proof lies upon the sceptic to disprove unfalsifiable claims of religions. In an article entitled "Is There a God?," commissioned (but never published) by Illustrated magazine in 1952, Russell said the following:
If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense. If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time.
In his book A Devil's Chaplain, Richard Dawkins developed the teapot theme a little further:
The reason organized religion merits outright hostility is that, unlike belief in Russell's teapot, religion is powerful, influential, tax-exempt and systematically passed on to children too young to defend themselves. Children are not compelled to spend their formative years memorizing loony books about teapots. Government-subsidized schools don't exclude children whose parents prefer the wrong shape of teapot. Teapot-believers don't stone teapot-unbelievers, teapot-apostates, teapot-heretics and teapot-blasphemers to death. Mothers don't warn their sons off marrying teapot-shiksas whose parents believe in three teapots rather than one. People who put the milk in first don't kneecap those who put the tea in first.
2007-01-12 23:20:05
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answered by eldad9 6
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I would like to see some evidence of that.
Also, two things:
1) What about all the other countless people who ARE blind? Why doesn't God help them out?
2) What about all the people who were dying and the odds were totally against them and they died?
2007-01-12 23:17:44
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answered by . 7
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theres a lot of other things that prove the bible to be true to.
1. all the books of the bible, written over thousands of years, by different authours, and they never contradict eachother
2. No book has influenced so many people.
3. Its lasted for thousands of years, and as never been destroyed, its still here in full text.
4. its the best selling book every year
and there are many more :)
2007-01-12 23:20:16
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answered by Tasha Marie 3
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What about the millions of times people prayed and things only got worse? If you are going to credit prayer with these two "miracles" your gonna have to suck up all the "unanswered prayers"....explanition for your two "miracles".......luck
2007-01-12 23:21:12
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answered by juniorramos1974 3
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Please provide proof for this eye growing back thing, because I haven't heard of it. If you don't, we're just going to have to assume you made it up.
99-to-1 odds still mean that 1 person out of a hundred will make it.
Please provide evidence of miracles.
2007-01-12 23:18:12
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answered by eri 7
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