if the universe has always been there without a beginning, how is it logically possible for us to exist?

Question

because an infinite amount of time would have to elapse to get us where we are now? If the world was created, either by accident or from a divinity, how does one explain something coming from nothing or in God's case, how is he somehow exempt from the same sort of reasoning?

Answer 1

According to your argument, the universe does not exist. Clearly this is a problem. See, if you assume that the universe is infinitely old, it must have taken an infinite time to get where we are now (as you said). It must have taken an infinite amount of time to get to 4000BC. It must have taken an infinite amount of time to get to 14 billion BC. By extension, it must have taken an infinite amount of time to get anywhere, so the universe has gotten nowhere; that is, the universe as we know it does not exist because it has not gotten here yet.

Now, if the world as we know it was created at some epoch, that does not necessarily imply that absolutely nothing existed before, it just means that our world did not exist before. Look at it this way: many cosmologists believe that all the material in the universe came from a single point in space (whatever "space" means) before the Big Bang. This infinitely dense point of matter only exploded because of an unstable condition, causing the Big Bang. Notice that the matter was always there, but not in the form we now know it.

As for God, an explanation of His exemption from these timelines necessarily includes a bit of hand waving. (Really, anything before 10^-43 seconds after the Big Bang involves quite a bit of hand waving since we have no clue.) In God's case, it is relatively simple to argue that since He is God and He is omnipotent, He can do anything He wants. If He doesn't want to be subject to time, He doesn't have to be. He's God.

Hope that gives you some ideas!

Answer 2

Nothing is black and white. There are finite existences and decay in the Universe that came from the nothing.

So, there are scientists explaining very intriguing mathematical theories to try to explain on a "quantum" level, (which is smaller than atoms and quarks)... how things came to be and where they are going.

In fact, many have come to believe and accept that there were many big bangs and many to come. Elements, when you study what they really are and have been known to be for a few Centuries now as "vibrational frequencies."

Each scale of the vibrational frequency will dictate what matter something subsists of.

The higher the vibration, the more it simply "poof" is not seen or detected. That's where I believe, God resides, and I believe God does not know nor even care that we exist at all.

We create our own reality. If more people would meditate and vibrate on a higher frequency, there wouldn't be any war or lack in our plane of existence.

I think far more deeply than some fairy tale with someone ruling over us with pixie dust in some mythological place called heaven.

Answer 3

i be responsive to which you could not understand that God would have continually existedthis view i be responsive to the way would desire to you in all danger understand what you have not experienced for your self?you could not fathom God's being wothout commencing up and for ever and ever, simply by fact, each thing else you be responsive to on your existence, has a commencing up and an end, yet are you able to fathom the universe, it has no commencing up and no end, are you able to fathom that even although you do have faith it,i'm particular considering you have been taught that, then how do you be responsive to that the unuverse has no commencing up and no end?are you able to fathom or tell me how huge is the universe? No! Why?simply by fact that's not fathonable to you,if I reported to you that your abode exchange into not geared up yet popped up out of not something or simply by fact of a significant bang. could you think of that selection into rational?or could that relatively be irrational?i think of the latter could be real! God isn't a theory like your huge bang theory, it is why even you call it in all danger on your guy or woman assertion simply by fact deep down you do not possibly think of that's real! and you're appropriate that's not real the great bang is relatively irrational and not even logical.

Answer 4

I have to get out of here. If I see one more concept of "beginnings" & "ends" I'm going to flush myself down the loo. Our little, unevolved, partially used brains seem incapable of ceasing the redundant question--where did we come from, god had to have created us, it was the big bang, yada yada yada. Our knowledge of the UNIVERSES (plural) is ever expanding. Hey, maybe the world really IS flat! It's the media! It's those danged scientists! No, it's god, & we have him all figured out. Everyone calm down please. Consider a CIRCLE--an unending circle--& LET IT GO!!

Edit: So typical & illogical, NickofTym: "...my ways are higher than your ways, & my thoughts than your thoughts." What incredible pomposity!

One more edit: Robertt22: "For something to exist, something always had to exist" is a false, [human], premise. & no, Atheists do NOT have "faith." The primary difference between Atheism & religion. I won't trespass on any belief; just don't TELL ME WHO I AM.

Answer 5

thats the problem i have with evolution
where did the first speck of life come from
nothing?
i call that first god and move on
it is easier to say god is eternal ,and that each breath creates a new big bang
prior to the big bang is as close to nothing we can get
everything was in the space the sise of a full stop.
.=as close to nothing as we can reasonably get
thus i call .[.]. god.
god is nothing would work till we meet the real thing
now that would really be something.

Answer 6

You are a thinker. Some say that universes cycle infinitely. Or maybe there is no such thing as infinity and time has a beginning and end.

Answer 7

too complex to wrap my brain around but each time I watch Discovery, or Nova on the findings of our earth, I'm amazed at how little we know and how alive our planet and solar system is. I heard that stars in the distance are suns with similar solar systems like ours. Eight planets around each star?
Life on one or two of them?
Infinite space.

Answer 8

Science Proven Facts:

For something to exist, something had to allways exist. Also called the Uncaused Cause.

Nothing created can be more inteligent then the thing that created it. That means that if we evolved, we would evolve down in inteligence, that is if evelution was even posible anyways....


Those probobly helped you little, but even the bible says we wont understand everything. It comes down to Faith.
But even Athiests have Faith, so the only diffrince is what you put it in, I just decide to put it in Truth.
Hope I helped.

Answer 9

Heaven is in a timeless zone. Meaning.......Time does not exist. It is a concept we as humans have yet to understand. I do believe we will at some point. Just not anytime soon.

Answer 10

God is.

Always was. Always will be. Timeless.

If you could fully understand/explain Him He wouldn't be much of a god, would he?

Isaiah 55:9 For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.