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"your taking that verse out of context"

how come you NEVER put the verse INTO context to prove us wrong?

and how come you put verses into your own "context"

take for instance the stance on prayer, i say "bible says he with faith the size of a mustard seed can move mountains" and "ask and you shall recieve" you tell me "you will only recieve if its in gods will" but nowhere does it say that. so apparently its ok for you to make the bible say what u want?

2007-01-12 07:19:39 · 13 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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it sounds to me like people take what they want out of certain scriptures and whatnot anyway they use the parts that benefit them and the parts that don't benefit them they don't bother with seems pretty hypocritical to me and shows a double standard

2007-01-12 07:25:13 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

It's true that single verses of the Bible, taken out of context are often abused by otherwise well meaning Christians. So often the Bible is studied backwards, that is, to make a point, the Bible is searched for a verses that seems to prove it, instead of studying the whole passage of scripture and then tiring to determine the point the text was making.

In regard to the text you seem to be referring to. If you go read the full passage I don't think you will find that it is about excavation or Mining or anything to do with earth moving at all. Isn't it talking about doing the truly impossible. Anyone with a bulldozer can move a mountain, but only through prayer and faith can sin be forgiven and a broken spirit be healed.

2007-01-13 01:50:11 · answer #2 · answered by Twoeyes 4 · 0 0

No, it's not OK.

Matthew 21:18-22

18 Now in the morning, when He was returning to the city, He became hungry. 19 Seeing a lone fig tree by the road, He came to it and found nothing on it except leaves only; and He said to it, "No longer shall there ever be any fruit from you." And at once the fig tree withered. 20 Seeing this, the disciples were amazed and asked, "How did the fig tree wither all at once?" 21 And Jesus answered and said to them, "Truly I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, `Be taken up and cast into the sea,' it will happen. 22 "And all things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive."

Maybe you don't receive because:

James 1:5-7

5 But if any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all generously and without reproach, and it will be given to him. 6 But he must ask in faith without any doubting, for the one who doubts is like the surf of the sea, driven and tossed by the wind. 7 For that man ought not to expect that he will receive anything from the Lord,

I know it is talking about wisdom but why not apply the same principle?

So in either case, it is not OK.

2007-01-12 15:35:09 · answer #3 · answered by Emperor Insania Says Bye! 5 · 0 0

I understand what you are saying.
I am a christian that thinks the bible is a very good read for life lessons, and it is a romantic/poetic type book.

There's so much knowledge in the bible to take one line and say, whats up with this...
It says God will give you the desires of your heart. God puts those desires there. So when we pray and have faith in God. Its what he needs and does for us individually. We are not to test him and say. God tear down this mountain because you said I could if I believed in you. The evidence is so overwhelming with the events that occur when one's soul is surrendered to God. You wont ever understand. I will never have the right words to explain it because the whole idea is bigger than the English language. I know my spirit is open and connected with something greater than the earth, than my physical body. So believe or not, that's your choice. You have a lot of spirit and energy, why not turn that to good instead of starting controversy?

2007-01-12 15:33:28 · answer #4 · answered by ♫O Praise Him♫ 5 · 3 0

possibly many don't even really know the context, as many have not actually looked into the depth of what is being said. in lots of cases they are spitting out the rhetoric they heard from their pastors and verses they remember from childhood, without understanding the implications they may have.

this is a common error in all schools of thought.

also, it is a human habit to utilize the "confirmation bias", which basically says that we seek out information that confirms or supports our belief or idea, while ignoring or discrediting any information that may clash with that idea. so in terms of the bible, when one verse is followed with another verse of completely contradictory meaning, the second verse is simply ignored.

2007-01-12 15:25:36 · answer #5 · answered by iwa 2 · 3 0

Actually, I do. I never answer a question concerning scripture until I consult the bible first. The bible is my Ultimate Authority. I have no right to talk about what's in it, if I have not read what's in it.

2007-01-12 15:30:53 · answer #6 · answered by Kat 3 · 1 0

If you are not a Christian, why do you care what the bible say's...p.s.. you are picking and choosing scripture and then trying to apply what you have read, but without the proper understanding. What you really need to do is to read the whole chapter and do some bible studying..get yourself a STUDY BIBLE and you will be all better, I PROMISE...peace soulsista

2007-01-12 15:29:38 · answer #7 · answered by soulsista 4 · 2 1

Quoting iwa above
"it is a human habit to utilize the "confirmation bias", which basically says that we seek out information that confirms or supports our belief or idea, while ignoring or discrediting any information that may clash with that idea."

Does this not also apply to scientists? picking and choosing what the data means and then passing it on to the general public. :)

2007-01-12 15:43:00 · answer #8 · answered by Eric E 3 · 1 0

Well in answering your question, some christians do that because they are evil and want their sin to be justified,

Second, the bible also says that those who are carnally minded see the things of God as foolishness, but the Bible can be interpretted anyway you want it but if you want the right interpretaion you must ask God to give it to you but you need to submit yourself to God.

Third, "This is the assurance we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us. And if we know that He hears us -- whatever we ask -- we know that we have what we asked of Him" (1 John 5:14,15).
"You ask and do not receive, because you ask amiss, that you may spend it on your pleasures." James 4:3

And to prove to you that it must be according to God's will for you to be in good standing with God, was when Jesus in the garden of Gethsemane said to God, to let him not suffer what he was about to suffer, but he said to God "nevertheless, not by will but yours be done." So theirs your will and theirs God's will.

2007-01-12 15:52:22 · answer #9 · answered by justwondering 3 · 0 0

If you would want to understand you would not only quote one sentence.

2007-01-12 16:22:49 · answer #10 · answered by Sternchen 5 · 0 0

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