It's been over 14 years since I last coached police officers in Jiu-jitsu and I'm out of touch with modern police methods.
Back then as far as i was led to believe by the police students,the police force had no compulsary martial arts training except for basic locks and restaints,and basic use of the side handled batons or tonfa in jiu-jitsu hence why they attended my club.
Just wanted to ask all police officers if things have moved on since then which i suspect they must have.
Or back then was police training in martial arts within the force a regonal luxury depending where you lived.
If you dont mind answering?
2007-01-12 05:32:02 · 8 answers · asked by Zenlife07 6 in Sports ➔ Martial Arts
they do Hapkido here in NZ, but used to do TKD, and the police still got bashed. they still are.
dont say that they cant strike back, because if you have human survival wired into your brain (and we all do) you would do what it took to drop an opponent, regardless of rules not to.
the trouble is that criminals are not couch potatoes, but drug fried, thugs that can fight. the police really need to get with that program and fight fire with fire, minus the drug use.
as long as the police are trained to be weak, via rules and regulations and fight training, they will always lose. I thought about joining but until the public stop crying over them shooting criminals, there is no hope.
they all get trained, just not tat any level or amount needed to effectively make a difference in an altercation. adrenaline destroys most peoples technique finesse, and then you have nothing but hay makers left.
shame really.
2007-01-12 08:23:24 · answer #1 · answered by SAINT G 5 · 3⤊ 0⤋
There is a lot of misconceptions here about law enforcement. But to answer your question yes times have change, the laws have change and tactics have change. I am a federal agent and a martial arts instructor as well. I am also a defensive tactics instructor for law enforcement officers. My experience is that the training for law enforcement officers is very limited. Its up to the individual officer to stay proficient. Some departments have requirements where you must re-certify in your defensive tactics every quarter or every year. We are still using a lot of controls, locks etc. but we are seeing more BJJ and MMA everyday.
For everybody else what you call a tonfa is a PR-24 for Law enforcement and is rarely used anymore. We use collapsible steel batons now a days. As far as laws, every department must have a use of force continuum that determines the amount of force we could use in an altercation. This of course is dictated by case law mostly from cases like Graham VS. Connor.
Some departments are also using American versions of Taiho Jutsu. The biggest difference for us now is that we have to be very careful with the techniques we used to remain within a certain use of force model. Of course criminals couldn't care less. So a lot of the deadlier techniques, specially chokes are out of the question until you get to deadly force levels.
I hope I answer your question. Email me if you have some more specific questions.
2007-01-13 05:28:03 · answer #2 · answered by bpshark74 3 · 0⤊ 2⤋
Today half of our force competes in weekend MMA events. Some have even quit to peruse fighting careers. I am a first year now, but I train our guys in Ju Jitsu as well as Enshin Karate techniques.
2007-01-12 17:13:27 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
they should train them how to use a tonfa properly and allow them to be able to actually use them,not like they do in la though.that would be a step in the right direction.as we all know though theres no easy answer,especially considering the fact that criminals have more rights than we do.all police have some type of physical training usually hapkido and simular tactics no particular style really.
2007-01-13 03:42:52 · answer #4 · answered by BUSHIDO 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
in thailand they use muay thai but mainly thier guns do most of the talking. England i dunno what is cumpulsery but my mate in the force said they they can put thier name down and do anything. boxin,g Jiu-jitsu anything that helps them on thier way. as most people say on this that it depends which country. each have thier own laws and techniques. i have seen a documentry about japaneze teaching the police how to use samurai swords. think it was kendu or something simular to the samurai art
2007-01-13 08:30:57 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
i am no cop, but i do know one thing police need to get a deeper fuller training program, the few techniques i have seen them use even i could conter, then again 12 years of ma will do that to you.
my judo teacher was a cop, even he agreed the trainig in the force was crappy at best.
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2007-01-13 01:34:21 · answer #7 · answered by Frankly 1 · 1⤊ 1⤋
In china, the police and military have full martial arts training...maybe you should go there!
2007-01-12 13:35:37 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋