Out of Nothing?

Question

too evolutionists, just how did the very first matter get there? Nothing comes from nothing... could we sudeenly have somthing apear right next to us as we walk down the street? if it happened once, y not again?

Where the first matter came from is what supports evolutionist in the idea God did not make make it. so it has religeous concequences

Answer 1

Well, i suppose the real question is when did the matter get here? Even the big bang theory proposes that the matter was always there, it was just condensed down to an infinitely dense point... science believes that energy cannot be created nor destroyed so in a sense, it just always existed. It works exactly at the same level as the idea of god having always existed. Neither can be proven but the best way to look at it is that there was no beginning, and will be no end, just as I am sure you believe god functions.

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String theory and M theory postulate the idea of a multiverse, whereby multiple dimenisions react with one another via universal principles (gravity, etc) and as such may transfer energy from one another which could potentially result in the appearance/dissappearance of matter/energy (such as observed in quantum theory). A newer idea is that the "big bang" may have occured as a result of dimensional collision, but potentially the matter transversion could still have been infinite in terms of time, simply transfering from dimension to dimension.

Answer 2

Actually, according to quantum physics, yes, in fact, things come into existence from nothing all the time.

Wiki 'virtual particles'.

And under those same principles, yes, something large enough to be seen could pop into existence next to you but would have to cease existing so quickly you would never have time to observe it.


By the way, use the right term. This has absolutely nothing to do with evolution. This is a question about cosmology.

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Suspendor:

And yes, the visible universe has a beginning. That does not mean, however, that the cosmos has a beginning.

There is a difference.

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Proverbs: Presume for a moment that deists are actually correct -- a deity created the big bang and then walked entirely away, leaving it entire to its own devices.

Evolution would still be true, even though there was a deific beginning.

So in what way does the origins of the universe affect the validity of Evolution?

If you want an answer about cosmology, stop asking about evolution. If you want an answer about evolution, stop asking about cosmology.

Answer 3

Why would you ask this question of "evolutionists" (whatever that is)? Biologists who study the process of evolution deal with ongoing changes over time, in already existing organisms. The question of where the first matter came from, or for that matter how life began on earth, lies entirely outside the scope of biological evolution. It's a given that things don't evolve (change) until they exist!
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Answer 4

No beginning and no end - Chicken and egg.
The universe may have began out of a big bang but from where did that come - out of nothing - where did that nothingness come from? etc etc ad infinitum...
Western cultures tend to tend logically and lineral and literary.
Eastern cultures tend to think intuitively and poetically.
The western religion said "In the beginning was the word.."
Eastern religiosn would say ther was the void or the nothingness.
Now astrophyisists are saying that there are paraleel universes and muilple universes.
One universe is born and it will die, then another will be born.
Life is an infinite continuum between someting and nothing - that is life.

Answer 5

I love this. Evolutionists here seem to be stuck in 1930's cosmology. Folks, wake up! This is the 21st Century. Try reading about Quantum Theory. The universe is NOT eternal.

Answer 6

well heres my take on it as a former catholic. those of you who believe so much in your own religion have done quite a bit of violent acts and a large amount of judgement on poeple you dont know have you not? if your God is as mighty as you say he is would he be force to recieve worship ONLY from a man made church? ONLY through prayer? he is not mighty enough to be worshipped without the need for a building made of stone? ask yourself that. and as for your beliefs in your religion, where did you get them? From some strange old man priest because he said so isnt it? you never bothered to look for your own answer and solve your own question you just tok what some old guy said for face value and swear its true. i believe God is everything not a he or a she. giving God a gender or a personality limits him to the contraints of human weakness and thus makes him nothing like a God and more of a weak human. i only believe there is some kind of a God because everything that ever was and is, was created. Nothing makes itself and thus using that logic you can assume this was all MADE by something for whatever reason. trying to understand that reasoning is like trying to place your intelect on a level of God and you cannot. your mind cant handle that kind of reasoning. i believe God is so big people cannot see it. Like being born next to a massive stone block with your face right up against it. over the years you can only speculate what it is you are looking at but you can never know without taking a step back and looking at the bigger picture. i also believe he is so small you cant see him. so take a step closer and look for yourself. Anyone can give you the scientific reasons for certain things that take place on earth but those are simply rules of physics. have you ever asked yourself why a tree grows the way it does or how gravity knows to pull objects down? im sure you know the answer scientifically but beyond the rules set in place and studied by science what makes those rules know to behave as the rules they are? alot more to it than a few commandments now isnt it? consider it.

Answer 7

they have to believe the univeres is infinetly old. And science has proven that it wasn't. Also it couldn't be cause you could never go back infinitely, if this is the case, then how could you ever arrive at a point. Besides how can matter that happened to be there make everything we see, without a designer, impossible & ridiculous.

Answer 8

Have you considered the possibility that matter has ALWAYS existed?

You believe in infinity, if you believe in god.

Infinity works both ways. Just as it has no end, it has no beginning either.

Creationists are the ones that are preaching that something came from nothing. They claim that "magic" poofed the universe into existence.

I find that a bit disturbing, to say the least.

Answer 9

Energy can be transformed into matter, matter into energy, matter into matter, etc. It cannot be created or destroyed, only transformed.

I think that either matter or energy has always existed, that the universe is infinite, and that there is more than one universe, with more than three dimensions. When it comes to cosmology, you have to think outside the box.

"The cyclic model is a brane cosmology model of the creation of the universe, derived from the earlier ekpyrotic model. It was proposed in 2001 by Paul Steinhardt of Princeton University and Neil Turok of Cambridge University. The theory describes a universe exploding into existence not just once, but repeatedly in endless cycles of death and rebirth.

The theory could potentially explain why a mysterious repulsive form of energy known as the "cosmological constant", and which is accelerating the expansion of the universe, is several orders of magnitude smaller than predicted by the standard Big Bang model."

Answer 10

Clearly God created the universe. However he also created evolution. The Bible says. "Let the earth bring forth the creatures of the sea" That's evolution.

When reading Genisis make sure to seperate the physical world from the spiritual world. Creation "in Gods image" is refering to the spirit. God has no physical image.