whats up with the us airforce?

Question

I support Sergeant Manhart for her decision and the us airforce needs to leave her alone! Please, everyone write to the us airforce commander and express the approval of what she did on her own time. I think it actually boosts moral for the us soldiers.

Answer 1

She was just spreading her wings............. sorry scratch that....

Answer 2

Obviously you are a civilian and always have been. You will never understand the discipline required of a military member. That dedication to the honor of service cannot be experienced by anyone except those who have been in the military during times of stress. There are certain things one does not do as a matter of personal morality when in the service. Disgracing the uniform by posing nude, partially or otherwise, is clearly conduct unbecoming a member of the armed forces. The Uniform Code of Military Justice is the set of laws under which military personnel are required to adhere. Those laws are much more strict that the weak rules in the civilian community. Adherence to military laws and regulations is a condition of employment.

Answer 3

Although I personally can't condemn Sergeant Manhart for her right to freedom of speech and expression, I have to admit that she is not the first to go down this road. All the branches of the military have strict guidelines as to their bearing and behavior. Some question this because of their misunderstanding of discipline. The military requires a very strict compliance to discipline because of the military needs and requirements. It would be difficult if one no longer had the confidence required to follow orders if the senior persons integrity or professionalism were questioned by the subordinates. Sergeant Manhart knew she was violating her "Code of Conduct" by posing for the magazine and therefore the military is going to take a very dim view of her actions!

Answer 4

This woman has been in the AF for 12 years. She knew the rules when she did it. She also knew what would happen, so I seriously doubt she was surprised when she was relieved of duty. In addition, she is stationed at Lackland AFB. Lackland is a training base. Her job was to train new airmen. She totally undermined any credibility she had as an instructor by doing this. I don't think it lessened her as a person, but it damaged her respectability as an NCO.

Answer 5

not to sure about that, i mean its a sort of law that you kinda have to keep integrity and not go nude on adult magazines or websites. Though i do understand that most males would agree with that, females in the Armed forces (who are serious )have to work twice as hard because of barrack bunnies or hoes (which ever you prefer). There are females that go up the ranks like every other military member with hard work dedication and leadership.

Answer 6

If its that big of deal to the AF they need to take out the playboys from the shopettes and BX's. Oh wait that would make sense then, and we're talking about the military. Those of us who were in know that you can never do the smart thing or something that makes sense.

Answer 7

I was a USAF Military Training Instructor at Lackland AFB, Tx from 1982 to 1986. Further, my son is currently an MTI at Lackland and is assigned to the MTI Academy where he teaches people to be MTIs. I first heard of this from my son last week; he knows Sgt Manhart personally, and we both share the same views on this. And here they are.

What Sgt Manhart did is a disgrace to the US Air Force, to the NonCommissioned Officer Corps, to the MTI Corps, and to herself. Being an MTI is one of the most important and prestigious jobs in the Air Force because you are the one who gets to shape and mold the future of the Air Force by training recruits to be responsible, productive airmen. In order to do this, you have to earn the trust and gain the respect of those whom you lead. Sgt Manhart has forever lost any chance of being respected and trusted again. She has lost the trust of her fellow NCOs and MTIs by posing nude, and she has lost her chance of being respected by every new recruit who sees her from this point on. She has shamed herself and every woman who wears the Air Force blue, and has done nothing but make it harder for women in the service in general and the Air Force in particular to be accepted and treated as equals.

Her commander was absolutely correct in relieving her of duty as she is no longer capable of being an effective MTI. I hope she enjoyes her fifteen minutes of fame, because she has just nuked her Air Force career - I say that because in order to be kicked out of the MTI career field, you have to receive Article 15 punishment and a very low rating on your Enlisted Performance Report. Those two things stay on your record for the rest of your career, and the low EPR rating will affect both your eligibility for any special duty assignment and your promotion eligibility. The effect on promotions lasts for 7 years; the effect on special duty assignments is permanent.

Sgt Manhart got what she deserved. The only letter I'll be writing is one to her commander congratulating him/her for removing her and urging him/her to go to the wall with punishment.