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2007-01-11 16:42:41 · 20 answers · asked by Nemesis 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

So what many of you are saying is that although the ot is not obsolete, you can select which parts you follow, that's convenient.

Van Kadus, I was a believer until my teenage years when I started to think for myself.

2007-01-11 16:53:45 · update #1

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I, as a non-Christian say that the old testament IS obsolete, and therefore do not observe the laws in Leviticus (plus, I'm gay, so Leviticus is pretty much out of the picture for me.) I also believe that much of the new testament is also obsolete, but much of it is valid.

2007-01-11 16:54:43 · answer #1 · answered by ? 5 · 1 0

The Old Testament laws are not obsolete.

The team at answering-christianity.com writes:

Jesus did honor the Old Testament's laws and ordered his followers to follow the Old Testament until the day of Judgment:

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law (the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law (the Old Testament) until everything is accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18)"

Christians always say as an excuse that an Old Testament law does not apply to them. According to Matthew 5:17-18, we clearly see that Jesus honored the Old Testament, and forced Christians to follow the unmodified laws of it that have not been replaced by newer ones in the New Testament.

God knows best

Peace and Love

2007-01-12 14:30:06 · answer #2 · answered by mil's 4 · 0 0

Well . . . perhaps in your teens, you were not well brought up to the Law and teaching of Jesus.

Jesus said, 'I am not here to destory the Law, but to fulfill it'

He taught us the 2 Great Commandment, to Love God, and to love others.

In the Epistles, they spell out even clearer, that by loving God, you already fulfull the other laws pertaining to the ritual, and obligation to God, and love others as ourselves, you too fulfill the law pertaining to the social aspect of the Law.

If you look into the Torah, especially Lev 19, you will realised that to be Holy, it is not just performing the fulfillment to God, but also to your neighbour. That teaching was further emphasis by Jesus, just look at the Sermon on the Mount.

Any other issues?

So, do you want to study the Leviticus Law in depth with me on line? I will help you to see the New T from the prospective of Old T, and how the Old T related to New T.

Just email me. If u are sincere, I can show how you can think for yourselve, which is the right path.

2007-01-12 01:09:25 · answer #3 · answered by Melvin C 5 · 1 0

The ten commandments are not obsolete. Got a question for you, since you are so obviously an atheist, why are most of your questions and answers in the R&S section? You get off on mocking God, Christianity, and the Bible? You claim to be a believer until you were a teen? That's your lie, tell it any way you want. You were never a true believer, and you do not think for yourself. Your father Lucifer does your thinking for you, it is clear just looking at the history of your questions and answers. If you do not believe in God, at least have the decency to leave the subject alone instead of constantly mocking and needling those that do believe. You have a severe problem to be consumed by this the way you are. Even as you mock Him, God loves you and has hope that you will redeem your soul, and quit tempting Him. I think that judging by all of your answers and the 31 of 37 questions that you posted here on R&S, you will burn. You are totally consumed by hatred toward God. You are the kind of person that makes me wish that it was OK to hate the enemies of God. But I am forced by my convictions to pray for you, even though it is hard to.

2007-01-13 21:00:57 · answer #4 · answered by Darryl L 4 · 0 1

If will be interesting the responses you get. The Bible, both the old and new testament, are the word of God. That is the crux of Christianity, that the Bible is the word of God. However, it will be amazing how many will say that parts of the old testament are still valid, but not others. Main thing then is since God is perfect, how is it that humans (who are not perfect) determine what is valid and not longer valid. Also, how can God who is perfect make something that will become not perfect over time? Either the Bible is accepted in full or not, but it is amazing that the corrupt Christians will only take the parts that support their continued corruption and drop the rest that constrict them too much.

Good question.

2007-01-12 00:51:41 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

It is not in effect any longer. It is not "obsolete" since it does serve a purpose, but it was soon done away with as a way of being acceptable to God, just as Jesus PREDICTED in Matthew 5:18.

Matthew 5:17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 Truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law UNTIL EVERYTHING IS ACCOMPLISHED.

Yes, Jesus said he did not come to abolish the law, but he clearly indicates that the law was ONLY TEMPORARY, in 100% agreement with Paul's writing about it about 30 years later. IF the law were intended to be permanent, the "UNTIL..." clause would not be there. Its presence confirms Paul's later teaching, along with that of the rest of the New Testament authors, that the law was no longer in effect.

Ephesians 2:15 Through his body on the cross, Christ put an END to the LAW WITH ALL ITS COMMANDS AND RULES. He wanted to create one new group of people out of the two. He wanted to make peace between them.

Colossians 2:14 He wiped out the written Law with its rules. The Law was against us. It opposed us. He took it away and nailed it to the cross.

Galatians 2:16 ...No one can be made right with God by obeying the law.

Galatians 2:21 ...What if a person could become right with God by obeying the law? Then Christ died for nothing!

Galatians 5:4 Some of you are trying to be made right with God by obeying the law. You have been separated from Christ. You have fallen away from God’s grace... The ONLY verse that talks about falling from grace, and they did it by trying to follow the law!

On the cross, Jesus' last recorded saying, "It is finished," is an important milestone. Because of Jesus life, Satan had been defeated. The law was finished and would no longer stand between God and mankind.

The 10 commandments along with the rest of the law ("LAW WITH ALL ITS COMMANDS AND RULES" from Ephesians 2:15) were "set aside" when they were fulfilled or completed at Jesus' resurrection. We are no longer bound by that law.

2007-01-12 00:46:10 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

If, as an unbeleiver, you would actually be willing to read the bible, you would find that Jesus did away with the Mosaic law and instituted a new covenant.

But we can still use the old testament for the priciples and the examples of god's dealings with men found therein.

2007-01-12 00:48:45 · answer #7 · answered by No More No Less 3 · 1 1

Read Hebrew Chapter 9 and 10.
It explains the Old Covenant and New Covenant succinctly. (NIV).
The KJV uses the term testament instead of covenant.
Jesus is the fulfilment of the Old Covenant.
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2007-01-12 01:28:50 · answer #8 · answered by Jimmy Dean 3 · 1 1

The old testament is not obsolete...it's been fulfilled. Christ came to fulfill the law, not to destroy it. The law was in place before grace...Jesus dying on the cross and being resurrected...to cover our sins until Jesus became the ultimate sacrifice. In the old testament is where you will learn the heart of God. Read it...you might like it.

2007-01-12 00:47:45 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 4 2

The ten commandments were never done away with. People just changed what they wanted to fit their lifestyle.
If you read matthew, you will remember that Christ says " Do not think that I have come to change the law. " " Not not jot nor tittle shall be taken from it".
And yes, I do Observe All Ten Commandments.

2007-01-12 00:56:38 · answer #10 · answered by kinev2010 3 · 1 1

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