if not, then what of the sociopathic murderers who do not recognize right and wrong... what of the retarded and invalid? schizophrenics? if god creates a broken man who must suffer all his life and then also banishes his sould to hell then god is not love. he is evil.
if you have a rebuttal, please give me the scriptural reference... the whole verse if you want, or just the reference, i'll look it up anyway.
2007-01-11
12:19:24
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AGE of accountability vs. DEMON possession and not a verse to back it up? hmmm... sounds like man made falsehoods to me.
2007-01-11
12:32:32 ·
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what i'm saying is that if a baby is sinless then so is a retarded person or sociopath. to attribute those mental disorders with demons is to go backward a thousand years in biology. we know that, for example, syphilis will deteriorate the brain making the sufferer insane. not possessed by demons. some people are born with malfunctioning brains and therefore cannot be said to be sinning since they don't know what they're doing. i am also saying that if god sends mentally retarded to hell then he is evil because this person (maybe due to his mother's alcoholism) is born into a body which will bring him nothing but pain all his life and then he will be sent to hell because he could not understand the whole God/Jesus paradigm. in that case, god=evil.
2007-01-11
12:38:48 ·
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EVERY answer for babies NOT going to hell so far could be just wishful thinking. to me, unfortunately, babies and the retarded as well as sociopathic are all on the same mental scale. if one goes to hell, so does the other. if babies go to heaven then so do the insane... which means your grandma may go to hell for not believing in christ jesus, but a serial killer goes to heaven because he didn't know the difference.
2007-01-11
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JESUS, so this man described does NOTHING that could be comparable to someone retarded or sociopathic. this man could be anyone. so if we are all possessed by demons then only people who are conscious of this can defeat the demon. retarded and sociopathic people cannot, therefore god damns those who cannot understand jesus. and it also means that babies are possessed. so babies are damned.
THERE IS NO SCRIPTURE that mentions the age of accountability.
2007-01-11
13:19:48 ·
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NO hell
2007-01-11 12:24:51
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answered by Anonymous
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I believe it is the uniform testimony of Scripture that those who are not capable of making a decision to receive Jesus Christ, and who have died, are now with Christ in heaven, resting in His tender arms, enjoying the sweetness of His love. There are numerous factors supporting this viewpoint.
It is highly revealing that in all the descriptions of Hell in the Bible, we NEVER read of infants or little children there. Only adults capable of making decisions are seen there. Nor do we read of infants and little children standing before the Great White Throne judgement, which is the judgement of the wicked dead and the precursor to the lake of fire (Rev 20:11-15). The complete silence of Scripture regarding the presence of infants in eternal torment militates against their being there.
Jesus and the children. As we examine instances in which Christ encountered children during His earthly ministry, it would seem that children have a special place in His kingdom. Jesus even said, "Unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven" (Mat 18:3) He also said, "Whoever welcomes a little child like this in my name welcomes me (verse 5). I don't think there is any way someone could read through Matthew 18 and conclude that it is within the realm of possibility that Jesus could damn such little ones to hell!
2007-01-11 22:32:33
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answered by Freedom 7
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No person on this Earth knows where we will go , when we die. Babies are innocent and there is a Bible verse that quotes what happens to the innocent children/baby's Suffer Not the Little Children to come unto Me, for such is the Kingdom of Heaven. Only God knows where each one of us will go. God is a forgiving God and Loves all people. He does not condemn, the sick and elderly. Or the Mentally ill. God is not evil. It is satan that is on a rampage and the God picks up the broken Souls. He is a Forgiving God. satan plays a major role in all the un-happiness and sickness in this world. We need to pray to God to help all of us. Only God knows where our Souls will go. Read the Holy Bible and there it will tell you . The New Testement.
2007-01-11 20:31:54
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answered by Norskeyenta 6
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Jesus said that the last enemy to overcome is death. Paul wrote that we should present our bodies, a living sacrifice, holy, perfect, and acceptable to God, which is our reasonable duty. These two were teaching a lesson about sin, life, death, and spiritual truth, but human thought is very slow to encompass the true meaning of the teaching. How can anyone overcome death if they are instantly processed into heaven or hell as they go through death? How can you present your body in perfect shape to God as a living sacrifice if after death you are in heaven or hell? When it is learned what death really is, then a lot of confusion on earth will vanish, and the heaven and hell issues will be put to rest. Babies do not burn in hell. Hell is self-created and very useful for those who need a little extra support to get back on track.
2007-01-11 21:34:03
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answered by ? 6
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Ok, murderers and most others who "do not recognize right and wrong" do the things they do because they are under the influence of demons housed in their soul. (all throughout the Gospels Jesus was casting out demons) Not to mention, how do you think diseases first came about?? SIN !!
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God will do something to show the person his/her sins. He will give the person a choice to choose right. And since God knows everything about EVERYONE, He WILL know how to get a person's attention, even those whom WE, as mere HUMANS, have MARKED as handicapped in some way. There is a difference between being "possessed" and simply housing demons. When you allow them to take control over your body, you are possessed. But if they are just laying dormant, they are simply being housed. You are right about only those who know about the demon can DEFEAT it. You need spiritual warfare to DEFEAT it. But, on the other side of the coin, there is something called self-control. I housed demons so bad at one time that I seriously thought about checking MYSELF into a mental hospital because I truly thought I was crazy, and I knew NOTHING about demons at the time, didn't even have my own Bible, nor did I read one. I still did not go crazy to the point where I killed someone or even an animal at that, and I HAD a murderous heart at the time, was on anti-depressants and probably could have been classified as legally insane. He got MY attention, and now I'm almost completely set free and have a sound mind, don't need anti-depressants anymore, etc. With that said, WHO ARE YOU TO SAY THAT A PERSON IS HANDICAPPED FOR LIFE, WHEN GOD COULD SET THAT PERSON FREE FROM THE ILLNESS THAT SO TORMENTS THEM? HE SET ME FREE. I AM A SIGN AND WONDER OF HIS MIGHT AND POWER. SO, WHO ARE YOU TO SAY THAT HE IS EVIL? HE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT IS GOOD!!
I don't speak of my own authority, but I speak that which God has confirmed to me personally in my own life. I had a screwed up life until JESUS came and saved me, and what I've just shared is only a small fraction of it.
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One such example of Demons is this :
Mark 5:1-20
1 They went across the lake to the region of the Gerasenes. 2 When Jesus got out of the boat, a man with an evil spirit came from the tombs to meet him. 3 This man lived in the tombs, and no one could bind him any more, not even with a chain. 4 For he had often been chained hand and foot, but he tore the chains apart and broke the irons on his feet. No one was strong enough to subdue him. 5 Night and day among the tombs and in the hills he would cry out and cut himself with stones. 6 When he saw Jesus from a distance, he ran and fell on his knees in front of him. 7 He shouted at the top of his voice, "What do you want with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? Swear to God that you won't torture me!" 8 For Jesus had said to him, "Come out of this man, you evil spirit!" 9 Then Jesus asked him, "What is your name?" "My name is Legion," he replied, "for we are many."
Babies do not go to Hell because they have not reached the age of accountability. They have not grown up yet to be able to have learned right from wrong, thus they are innocent in God's eyes and God will take them home to heaven.
2007-01-11 20:26:18
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answered by JESUS LIVES 1
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I trust God's judgement enough to know He will never Damn a baby. Not all suicides go to Hell either. God has mercy, you know. He sent Jesus to fix "broken men" and relieve their suffering. John 3:17:"For God DID NOT SEND HIS SON INTO THE WORLD TO CONDEMN THE WORLD, but to save the world through him. Give God a little credit.
2007-01-11 20:52:04
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answered by John T 2
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No, all babies and children included who die before the age of accountability, Jewish tradition the age is 13, automatically go to heaven because of the love and grace of God.
Mark 10:14
When Jesus saw this, he was indignant. He said to them, "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these.
Romans 9:11
For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil.."
Matthew 18:1-6
1At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?
2And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,
3And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
4Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
5And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.
6But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
2007-01-11 21:47:19
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answered by isbros 3
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Yes, if they are the sons or daughters of the wicked and especially if they are not baptized, since Baptism usually implies faithful godparents or sponsors who witness to the child's faith.
Exodus 34
6And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth, 7Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.
2007-01-11 20:28:11
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answered by Holly Marie 3
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Hell is a Christian myth, that they don't really understand. But, Yes, the babies of people who don't know what to do when "hell" arrives on earth will burn, along with the invalids and idiots.
Regards,
Chris
2007-01-11 20:26:18
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answered by ChrisJ 3
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I don`t think you do because babies can`t really do evil except for the baby on King of the hill!
2007-01-11 20:28:46
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answered by Scott T 2
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The best I can come up with is Mark 10:14, "Suffer the little children to come unto me...."
2007-01-11 20:41:10
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answered by Anonymous
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