BEATING WOMAN: Is a religion false simply because it advocates woman beating?

Question

Quran 4:34 "(as to those muslimah’s) on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them;" http://cwis.usc.edu/dept/msa/quran/004.qmt.html

Some Muslims try to deny that this is what 4:34 says. They are of course lying and will not "swear to allah" that it doesnt permitt beating.

Research it yourself, if you think this issue sigificant. Dont you want to know if youve been delibrately lied to? After all, in the west, most Muslims try to deny this is what it says.

Outside the west, you will find the opposite, most muslims respond with "yea, so whats wrong with that?"

What conclusions can you draw, once you research this and discover that THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE QURAN SAYS? Will you conclude that almost all western Muslims are liars? Sounds harsh, I know, but of course, if I was a western Muslim today, I guess I would lie about Islam all day long, to keep the heat off.

Answer 1

That would be one of the reasons it is, yes.

Answer 2

No, a religion cannot be falsified because of a single belief. However, it is easy to disprove many, many facets of all religion, but impossible to disprove any and all of them.

To falsify a religion, a better question is where to start? Pick your favorite preachy religion, get a book containing there creed (For beginners, I reccomend the Bible, for advanced religion squashers, try something without a patron deity, like Buddhism), and then find a statement that you can demonstratably prove wrong. This is also easy, the Bible says Pi (the ratio of a circle's radius to its circumference) is 3. Dead even, 3. Anyone with any sort of math training will tell you Pi is irrational, meaning it extends forever, and that it is much closer to 3.1415

So, let's use our philosophy training now
God is all-knowing
God "wrote" (divinely inspired) the Bible
The Bible says Pi is three.

Soemthing should strike you wrong here. This is not irrelevant to your question though. For someone to vehemently believe ina literal interpretation of any religion, that is when problems start. If you choose to accept a religion, it should be done for for moral and spiritual guidance, and not as a literal or historical interpretation of any factual events. This little difference in the way people follow their beliefs is what has indeed caused, by my personal estimate, just about all the pain and suffering in the world for the last 4000 years.

Think about it.

Answer 3

i'm not precisely a faith buff or something, yet even if it Islam does say someplace that abusing females is allowed, nicely then, Islam is misguided. a faith won't be able to supply such instructions. faith isn't above each and everything. basically because a faith would or received't say something is allowed does not propose that it is precise. that's misguided for such gender inequalitites to exist everywhere contained in the international. adult males and females are psychological equals, and both sexes deserve honest treament. i'm not a feminist or something, i imagine it is basically obvious and honest that females not be treated like worthless peices of scum. it is disgusting. yet apparently some adult males imagine basically because they are 'smarter' and 'superior' and 'better' and performance a p***s skill they could do in spite of they favor to females who're weak and insignificant of their eyes. to respond to your very last question, that guy is misusing faith, if beating females has any foundation in Islam in any respect. Please, call the police. You' problem isn't precise, and also you need to not be beaten. The authorities can help. faith would not administration each and everything. And please, basically help your self get out of this problem and get honest treatment. sense free. each and every chuffed human being on earth makes the international a touch brighter. : )

Answer 4

No it is false simply because it is a religion. All religion is fantasy. They are a figment of the imagination. A religion is not only false it is bad if it advocates beating women. But no worse than other religions which advocate murder and mayhem. All religion is used for mind control of the masses and most are very good at it. You should denounce all religion not only Islam. BB

Answer 5

I hope you are married and your wife will surely had made life impossible for you by sleeping with another man would you then not liked to killed her or would you have congratulated her and told her to continue, now in the Quran it says that when women disobey you admonish them but still if they do not listen to you then slowly hit them not on the face to admonish them and if you would have followed the sayings of Quran there would have been less divorces in your society

Answer 6

Jewish law dictates that the size of the stick should be no larger than your finger. These are old rules from a different time, and an indication why ALL of their teachings should be looked at with a critical eye.

Answer 7

That would be a logical fallacy. A religion may advocate woman beating, but it does not follow from this that the religion is false.

Answer 8

It shows once again that religions are cultural and most of the beliefs come from the minds and beliefs of the people who started the religion.

Answer 9

~~~As,,, You haven't established what Criteria that YOU consider to render a religion "false". ALL religions have Contradictions, especially those which have a written form, or referrence. If your meaning of "false" regards a "false god" then I would agree with you,,, and further contend that Allah is as false as ALL the god's of Mankind who have come and gone.

Answer 10

Thanks for bringing this out.
Muslims are allowed to lie if "it will serve allah and his religion" acording to Mohammad, something you will not find in what Christ said. Wife beating is yet another human flaw in a not so spiritual religion as it pretends to be, rather than it is an Arabian political philosophy. Don't be surprised if you find Muslims say that Mohammad told them to beat their wives with a "toothbrush" ??????

Answer 11

You've got it wrong sweetie :)
Dont talk about something that you know nothing about.
In Islam a woman is honored,and it says nothing about beating a woman up.
but what I dont understand is why do people attack a Holly book?The Qura'an,and question God's words,and trust what people say?
we believe in Jesus,and in the Holly Bible it is said that a guy will come after Jesus by the name of Mohammed/Ahamd and he's the new messenger of God.
Please educate yourselves before you attack Islam,read about it,understand it and then I assure you,you'll know what I mean.
Another thing we love Christians,we dont hate anyone,why do you people hate us?Even Jesus said love and not hate...according to your religion wasnt crusifying him enough to give you this messege?
Each person has his/her beliefs,leave it there.
Have a great day and God bless you.