If "Jesus" really lived, why is there no historic record of him anywhere but in the fictitious bible?

Answer 1

Oh, so you have researched all the historical records and you haven't found anything about Jesus outside the Bible? Well then you missed some. There are extra-biblical texts (texts outside the Bible) that also confirm what is written in scripture.

Josephus was a very important Jewish historian of the first century. He was a priest, a pharisee, and somewhat egotistical. Most importantly he was NOT A CHRISTIAN. Look into his books "The Antiquities" and the "Testimonium Flavianum".

In these references Josephus does corroborate important information about Jesus: that he was the martyred leader of the church in Jerusalem and that he was a wise teacher who had established a wise and lasting following, despite the fact that he had been crucified under Pilate at the instigation of some of the Jewish leaders.

These references from Josephus are highly significant especially since his accounts of the Jewish War have proved to be very accurate.

Also look at authors like Tacitus, Pliny the Younger, Thallus (quoted by Julius Africanus), and the Talmud.

Answer 2

I used to ask Christians this thinking, "Oh, yeah. Gotcha." Then I started reading up on it. There are historical documents (albeit nothing too convincing regarding anything supernatural) that suggest there was a man named Jesus that lived at that time, and he had followers.

There was a very, very prominent historian (Josephus) that was also near Jesus' contemporary who didn't write a single thing about any miracles, any of the supposed "big things" that happened to Jesus, nor about any resurrection. (I can only imagine that if a man was killed and raised from the dead, it would get around pretty quick.)

We also need to remember that there wasn't any part of the bible that was written during Jesus' lifetime. All of the gospels were written at _least_ 30 years after his death, and all four have inconsistencies. Josephus was writing at the same time, and nothing really coincides.

What the Jesus myth actually ended up becoming was an amalgamation of Jesus, Apollonius of Tyana, Horus of Egypt and many other messiah traditions. It was a way to get new people with different religious convictions to join the Christian faith.

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Answer 3

Fictitous? Are you serious? Here's a question for you: why are people more apt to try discrediting and defaming the Bible -- a known, trusted source that's read the world over -- and less apt to do the same when it comes to anything NOT having to do with God? I think I'd like to dispute that the dictionary contains real information. Who decided that all those words were really words? I'd like to protest the fact that there's a dictionary in every library in the United States. The nerve! I don't have to believe in that dictionary and I shouldn't have to see it in public buildings.
What it all comes down to is that we can believe what we want. If you want to live by the book "Chicken Soup for the Golfer's Soul" who am I to say its fictitious?

Answer 4

Because during his lifetime, he was an insignificant peasant from a remote, insignificant country on the border of the Roman Empire. Why would anyone write about him? You are not in the newspapers or history books either. Does being part of the anonymous masses prove that you don't exist?

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The non-Christian sources for the historical truth of the Gospels are both few and polluted by hatred and prejudice. A number of reasons have been advanced for this condition of the pagan sources:

The field of the Gospel history was remote Galilee;

the Jews were noted as a superstitious race, if we believe Horace (Credat Judoeus Apella, I, Sat., v, 100);

the God of the Jews was unknown and unintelligible to most pagans of that period;

the Jews in whose midst Christianity had taken its origin were dispersed among, and hated by, all the pagan nations;

the Christian religion itself was often confounded with one of the many sects that had sprung up in Judaism, and which could not excite the interest of the pagan spectator....

...We possess at least the testimony of Tacitus (A.D. 54-119) for the statements that the Founder of the Christian religion, a deadly superstition in the eyes of the Romans ...

...Another Roman writer who shows his acquaintance with Christ and the Christians is Suetonius (A.D. 75-160). It has been noted that Suetonius considered Christ (Chrestus) as a Roman insurgent who stirred up seditions under the reign of Claudius (A.D. 41-54)...

...Of greater importance is the letter of Pliny the Younger to the Emperor Trajan (about A.D. 61-115), in which the Governor of Bithynia consults his imperial majesty as to how to deal with the Christians living within his jurisdiction....

...Philo, who dies after A.D. 40, is mainly important for the light he throws on certain modes of thought and phraseology found again in some of the Apostles. Eusebius (Hist. Eccl., II, iv) indeed preserves a legend that Philo had met St. Peter in Rome during his mission to the Emperor Caius; moreover, that in his work on the contemplative life he describes the life of the Christian Church in Alexandria founded by St. Mark, rather than that of the Essenes and Therapeutae. But it is hardly probable that Philo had heard enough of Christ and His followers to give an historical foundation to the foregoing legends...

...The earlist non-Christian writer who refers Christ is the Jewish historian Flavius Josephus; born A.D. 37, he was a contemporary of the Apostles, and died in Rome A.D. 94. ...

Answer 5

That's what we call a loaded question. The New Testament is the most well attested piece of ancient historical writing that we have, with something like 30,000 existing manuscripts that differ only in minor details (mostly things like word order). The Bible is absolutely reliable.

Answer 6

Julie,

You need to do your homework before posting this question.

If you do your research, you will see that the Romans kept meticulous records. You will also find in those records that Jesus of Nazareth did in fact walk this earth, paid taxes (as a carpenter) and made some Rabbi's very, very angry. You will also find in those records that he was in fact crucified on a cross.

You only wanted to show your foolishness and you have succeeded. Congratulations.

Answer 7

Apparently you haven't done any actual research on the subject. Ever heard of Josephus. That's a good starting point for you. There was also an empire called Rome. You might find some mention there. It won't be detailed mind you, empires tend to not build up those that threaten them. You'll also want to look into older Jewish texts. They won't say He was the Messiah, but they'll mention Him.

Answer 8

I think he lived but since its 2000 yrs ago I can't be sure and no one can be sure. Remember a powerful government can make you believe anything. That's why there are conspiricy theories.

And for the bible, I don't think its completely fictitious. But I also don't think everything in it are facts either.

Answer 9

ARE YOU KIDDING ME

Romans, Arabics, Greeks, Egyptians, and other historians wrote about him.

There is so much history in the Bible that aligns with today's history books you wouldn't know where to begin.

Don't make assumptions like that.

WHY WOULD HALF THE WORLD DURING JESUS' DAY FOLLOW HIM IF HE DIDN'T EXSIST

WHY WOULD THE MUSLIMS CALL HIM A PROPHET

Answer 10

There was a man named Jesus that lived Historically, even the Jewish people know of Him, ( you can look that up)! However the question is whether or not you believe Him to be Messiah! In my case, I do!