Do you think claims that the prophesy of Daniel about Persia and Greece fighting already occured?

Question

Reading the Bible in context, it also says Libya and Ethiopia will ally themselves with Persia. Ez 38:5 I think.
And Alexanders army that defeated the Persian army in history, was Macedonian, not Greek.
What do you think?

Answer 1

Although Ezekiel 36 and 37 have been fulfilled by the re-establishment of Israel in 1948 under one government (instead of two), Ezekiel 38 and 39 have not yet been fulfilled. The present alliance between Russia (Magog) and Iran (Persia) is the first time in all of history these two countries have signed pacts together. All signs point toward the soon fulfillment of Eze. 38/39.

The prophecy about Persia and Greece have been fulfilled. After the Medo-Persian Empire's control over the Jews was broken, the Grecian Empire stepped in. In turn, the Grecian Empire's control over the Jews was also broken.

p.s. -- read Daniel 8 carefully -- Alexander is mentioned at verse 21.

Answer 2

Whether Alexander's army was Macedonian or Greek is a really nit-picky detail. Under Alexander Hellenistic culture and the Greek language became global (excluding America and China and such). Saying Alexander's army was Macedonian is like calling Hitler's army Austrian. Alexander's army was very diverse, and he created the Koine language so that they could have a common language. There really was no "Greece" until Alexander - there was Athens, there was Sparta, and so on, but when Alexander unified the area it became Greece, not Macedonia. Daniel is very accurate - Babylon conquered by Persia, Persia conquered by Greece, Greece divided and conquered by Rome, Rome "conquered" by the Vatican.

Concerning Ezekiel 38, I think that is yet to happen, and just from memory I would suppose they unite against Israel. But I haven't studied Ezekiel's prophecies in some time.

Answer 3

Most Bible prophecies had a short term fulfillment, a mid term fulfillment and an eventual, final fulfillment.

Daniel said that some of the things he saw, he didn't understand, and when he asked about them, he was told that he couldn't understand - just write it down, and someday, someone will see it happening, and understand it then.

We see things happening in the world now, that seem to fit what he said, but others have thought, in past times, that their circumstance was the end of the world, too.

Whether the end comes in our lifetime, or not, the end will come for us as individuals. The choices we make in this life, determine what God can do with us in the future.

Answer 4

I would think that the prophecy about Daniel would be different than the one you are mentioning in Ezekiel. Ezekiel seems to refer to the time after Israel is restored. An interesting statement in there is that they will go up against a city without walls. nteresting when you see Israel building walls again.

Answer 5

I guess i read the world comes to an end with persia.

Answer 6

No. There are no prophecies in the bible or quran that will EVER come true. Get a grip on reality.

Answer 7

Lot of Prophets have come and gone and none predicted clearly than Luice Nasturdamus!

Answer 8

The name Gog is found in chapters 38 and 39 of Ezekiel and is there applied to the leader of a stormlike, multinational assault against God’s people. The attack comes after Jehovah has gathered his people out of the nations and restored them to the previously devastated “mountains of Israel.” Because they dwell in security, with no visible signs of protection, and because they enjoy abundant prosperity, Gog is drawn into waging a vicious, all-out attack upon them. He congregates a vast army from many nations for this purpose. But his assault sets off Jehovah’s rage and brings terrible defeat and destruction upon Gog and his entire crowd. Their carcasses become food for birds and beasts, and their bones are buried in the valley that thereafter is called the Valley of Gog’s Crowd (literally, Valley of Hamon-Gog).

The lands and peoples mentioned in the prophecy relating to Gog are known from the Bible and to some extent from secular history. But efforts to identify Gog with some historically known earthly ruler have not been successful. Most frequently suggested is Gyges, king of Lydia in western Asia Minor, called Guggu in the records of Assyrian monarch Ashurbanipal. (Ancient Records of Assyria and Babylonia, by D. Luckenbill, 1927, Vol. II, pp. 297, 351, 352) Gyges, however, had died decades before the writing of Ezekiel’s prophecy. Hence, such identification is unacceptable. Additionally, the prophecy itself places Gog’s attack in “the final part of the years,” “in the final part of the days.” (Eze 38:8, 16; compare Isa 2:2; Jer 30:24; 2Ti 3:1.) For these reasons, the name Gog is evidently cryptic or symbolic, not being that of any known human king or leader.

The evidence points to a fulfillment in what is elsewhere called “the time of the end.” (Da 11:35; 12:9; compare Re 12:12.) Bible scholars and commentators generally recognize the prophecy as relating to the time of the Messianic Kingdom. As an example, The New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge comments: “Gog appears as the leader of the last hostile attack of the world-powers upon the kingdom of God.” (Edited by S. Jackson, 1956, Vol. V, p. 14) No fulfillment on natural Israel is known. The fulfillment in “the final part of the days” logically is with regard to spiritual Israel, the Christian congregation (Ro 2:28, 29; Ga 6:16), described by the apostle Paul as children of, and directed by, the “Jerusalem above.” (Ga 4:26) These points aid in arriving at the identification of Gog.
Further aid is found in the book of Revelation. Prophetic visions there foretold a great increase in persecution against the Christian congregation on the part of the symbolic dragon, Satan the Devil. This was to follow his being cast down, with his demons, from the heavens to the region of the earth, an act accomplished by the Kingdom of God through Christ at the time of Jesus’ beginning to exercise kingly authority. (Re 12:5-10, 13-17) The massing of earthly nations against God, his Son, and God’s faithful servants on earth figures prominently in these visions, as does also the total defeat and desolation of such enemy forces. (Re 16:13-16; 17:12-14; 19:11-21) The feasting by birds on the corpses of such enemies of Christ’s Kingdom rule likewise finds a correspondency here.—Compare Eze 39:4, 17-20 with Re 19:21.

The central figure, or leader, of the earth-wide assault against the Messianic Kingdom and its subjects, according to Revelation, is Satan the Devil. He is the only person in the Biblical record who can be said to fulfill adequately the description and role assigned to ‘Gog of Magog’ in the prophecy given to Ezekiel. The prophecy in Ezekiel concerning Gog therefore points to a vicious, earth-wide assault on God’s people, an assault engineered and led by the abased Satan the Devil. This attack is what triggers the complete wiping out of such Satanic forces by means of God’s awesome power.—Eze 38:18-22.

Answer 9

All prophecies, no matter where they originate, are myth.