If Allah thought the revelation was rewritten and corrupted why would he agree with it? If you say only before it was corrupt why is he telling you to tell these people you agree with our revelation? Surely Allah like the Christian God is all knowing after all he says Your God is my God. 6:114-115 says this book is his and he handed it to Moses and his word can not be changed. If Allah is all knowing would he not foreknow what corruption would happen to his word and tell his people he was not in agreement with this revelation? Surely Allah was never in agreement with corrupt scripture? So who are these people of the book and where is this book now and these people? and why did he not mention that they would disappear because he is very misleading to call it all holy and good knowing that it would be corrupt and asking his people to agree with it..Guidence and light we agree with your revelation..seems to be a contradiction to say all of this about a corrupt book.
2007-01-10
23:28:00
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Fagies God revealed the path before the Qu'ran was written. Jesus taught I am the way and the truth and the life no one comes ot the Father but through the Son.
2007-01-10
23:41:12 ·
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Muhammed: I have to wonder if you have read the Christian scriptures as the Gospel is the Good News and the atonement provided by Christ taught throughout is the Gospel.
2007-01-10
23:48:25 ·
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Abel if John taught seperate than God...thinking logicly wouldn't your Allah have noticed as the book of John was before the Qu'ran even if it were after the Qu'ran which we all know it wasn't isn't Allah all knowing? Why is it illogical to think Allah would know if something were holy or corrupt? Is it too much to expect from an all knowing God? The truth is all of God's word is in agreement all of the Gospel is in agreement and the gospel is in agreement with all previous of God's scripture.The book of John is in agreement with the Gospel and God's word...Why is the Qu'ran not in agreement with God's word? and why does it say it is? There is nothing profound about this question it seems the answer is obvious.
2007-01-11
01:05:34 ·
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Sugar If the Torah were corrupt before Christ would Christ not have taught this rather than teaching and fufilling corrupt scripture? If this scripture was corrupt before Christ who are the people of the book that you are in agreement with as they are not in agreement with you before the Qu'ran? If Allah says in the Qu'ran we are in agreement with your revelation then these people must have been after the Qu'ran? thust he brief time between these revelations the New testament and the Qu'ran they would have had to been in agreement? and apprently sometime after that else how could you be commanded to tell the peope of the book you agree with their revealtion if this was for such a short time woulkd Allah not have known these books would be corrupt tna still his people are told ot agree with the people of the book? Is that order no londer in effect and no longer true? If that is not true today does that mean that the Qu'ran is now corrupted by time? Did Allah not realize these things?
2007-01-11
01:18:56 ·
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ps Sugar wasn,t the council of the Nicene in 325 which if correct was atleast a couple hundred years or so before the Qu'ran therefore the people of the book must have already accepted this before Allah said say to the peole of The book we agree wiht your revelation? wouldn't this mean he was in agreement with this council of Nicene?
2007-01-11
02:04:15 ·
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Didn't Constatine have a vision of the cross several hundred years prior to the Qu'ran so surely the cross was taught in the begining of the Gospel even historicly speaking therfore are we to assume that Allah was in agreement with this revealtion that was the Gospel or he wasnt in agreement with it but wanted Muslims to say they agreed with this revelation? Did God lie? Or could God just not understand what the Gospel was even though he claims he inspired it?
2007-01-11
02:29:40 ·
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Fagie Have you not read the Qu'ran it both agrees and disagrees but you know it siad tell the people of the book we agree woith the revealtion handed down ot you. Your Allah is our Allah. who are these people you are suposed to agree with these people of the book? If the Gospel taught the cross and always did and it is easily proved then these people you are ina greement with certainly by the time the Qu'ran arrived would have believed in the crucifiction If not whoa re these people of what book that had to existed after the Qu'ran how else would you tell them anything if they were already gone before the Qu'ran was written?
2007-01-11
02:35:51 ·
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There is only One True God - Jehovah God, God Almighty, The Great I AM. Allah is not God. You cannot have a relationship with Allah. You CAN have a relationship with God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ. These are Truths. I pray you find the Truth - Jesus Christ - before it is too late.
2007-01-11 00:17:30
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answered by jworks79604 5
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My answer:
People of the book are the people of the original books. They've not disappeared - their descendets remain.
He does mention it would disappear - only in different words; he says "why do you withhold from the people part of the books?"
We all know the Council of Nicene decided on which scrolls go into the bible today. Men got together and decided what goes into it. Muhammed (pbuh) received the messages and they were written down immediately, word for word. It has stayed intact. It's really your choice to believe it or not.
Allah is not in agreement with corrupt scripture, but He honours his promises- promises made to Abraham, to both of his children.
The Quran says to not hurt the people of the book unless attacked, it does not say the books themselves are holy and good. It accepts that the originals were. Just as in Christianity it is believed that the Jews sinned and didn't keep to what was kept and so there was a need for Jesus - just so, neither did the Christians, because they couldn't - parts were missing - so he sent Muhammed. It's my belief. You can take it or leave it, makes no difference to me.
2007-01-11 00:04:28
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answered by Sugar 4
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Not you again, John wrote down that Jesus(pbuh) said I am this and that. Jesus never said those things, have you ever paused for a minute and thought logically, if this were so important, how come the other gosples make absolutely no mention of this? I said go to an Islamic website and let them hear your rant, it's really not that profound or insightful.
2007-01-10 23:55:30
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answered by Anonymous
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We find that all of them are clearly and abundantly taught throughout the Bible. I daresay Christianity would be hard put to find in the Bible as much justification for its teachings and practices. The Trinity, the Atonement, the transubstantiation, ecclesiastical hierarchy, Church authority, the observance of Christmas, Easter and other Christian festivals, all require amazing leaps of logic in interpretation to gain any support from the Christian Scriptures. In contrast, Islamic beliefs and practices naturally arise from the expressions of the text.
We have examined the Bible from the point of view of all five pillars of Islamic belief and practice as expressed in Sunni Islam. It is possible to justify, sometimes in the smallest detail, these beliefs and practices. The unity of God, the prophets including Muhammad, the sacred Scriptures, angels and the resurrection for the Day of judgement are all maintainable, sometimes with a very high rate of success. The practices of prayer in prostration, alms, fasting, and pilgrimage are clearly defensible from the Bible text.
The special doctrines of Shi'ism also hold true when examined from the Bible. The justice of God, divine guidance, and the middle way between determinism and free will can all be defended, although the latter has had as varied a theological history in Christianity as it has had in Islam, and many passages in both the Bible and the Qur'an could be interpreted to defend either determinism or free will. Striking parallels to the Shi'ite Imamate have been seen to exist in the Bible.
Aside from the Islamic basics, many details of faith and practice are maintained by the Christian Scriptures. Among these are many details of marriage, divorce, animal sacrifice, purity, diet laws, circumcision, purity, and even prostration on earth substance. Such things as the witness by two men or two women and one man appear. The Islamic practices of raising the hands and saying `Allahu Akbar', the expressions `Assalaamu Alaykum' or `Peace to you', and `in sha Allah', `if God wills', are all Biblical traditions.
The Bible not only supports Islamic beliefs and practices, but does so consistently. There is relatively little in the Bible that is offensive to Muslim eyes, and most such things are offensive because they have been given a Christian interpretation, or because of linguistic and cultural changes that make them less understandable than they originally were. Islam is based, not on the Bible, but on the Qur'an, Islamic tradition, and the example of the Prophet and, in the case of Shi'ites, on the example of the twelve holy Imams. The similarities between the Bible and Islam are explained to believers by the fact that the same God inspired both, and to researchers by the fact that both Qur'an and the Bible are products of Middle Eastern monotheism. All of the great principles of Islam are clearly evident in the earlier Scriptures as they remain in our hands today, encumbered as they may be with the ravages of time.
2007-01-10 23:37:40
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answer #4
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answered by Anonymous
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Allah is the most merciful and compassionate.
He know bout the all the war and chaos occuring in this world currently. But why did He let it happen.
Same as He know the previous scripture would be corrupted, and He let it be. This is all a test for us human.
That is why He sent His last messenger to us, Muhammad(p).
There wont be any more messenger after this, except only the descension of Jesus(p) bak to earth.
We are near our end time. I just want to remind u and myself, thats all.
Pray to God, ask for His guidance.
May He show us the right path.
2007-01-10 23:37:23
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answer #5
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answered by Anonymous
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the book was not corrupted and most certainly never changed since mohammeds day so I agree it is a contradiction in terms from islam.
2007-01-10 23:37:37
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answered by Anonymous
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islam was made up by mohamed using any piece of literature he could come across, including the bible.
2007-01-10 23:53:34
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answered by ekduin 3
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Hey kids...all books were written by normal humans...thats da real reason to all these confusions...
2007-01-10 23:55:01
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answered by Anonymous
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Muhammad lived a less than holy life. His lust for sex, his affairs with his maids and slave girls, his pedophilic relationship with Aisha a 9-year-old child at the age of 53, his killing sprees, his massacre and the genocide of the Jews, his slave making and trading, his assassination of his opponents, his raids and lootings of the merchant caravans, his burning of the palm plantations, his destroying the water wells, his cursing and invoking evil on his enemies and his revenge on his captured prisoners of war disqualify him as a decent human being let alone the messenger of God
An unbiased study of Quran shows that far from being a “miracle” that book is a hoax. Once Quran is scrutinized with rational thinking, almost every sentence proves to be false. Quran is replete with scientific heresies, historic blunders, mathematical mistakes, logical absurdities and grammatical errors. Could possibly the author of this Universe be as ignorant as it appears to be in Quran?
Quran tells Muslims to kill the disbelievers wherever they find them (Q. 2:191), to murder them and treat them harshly (Q. 9:123), slay them (Q. 9:5), fight with them, (Q. 8: 65 ) even if they are Christians and Jews, humiliate them and impose on them a penalty tax (Q. 9: 29). Quran takes away the freedom of belief from all humanity and tell clearly that no other religion except Islam is accepted (Q. 3: 85). It relegates those who disbelieve in Quran to hell (Q. 5:10), calls them najis (filthy, untouchable, impure) (Q. 9: 28). It orders its followers to fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left (Q. 2: 193). It says that the non-believers will go to hell and will drink boiling water (Q. 14: 17).
It asks the Muslims to slay or crucify or cut the hands and feet of the unbelievers, that they be expelled from the land with disgrace and that “they shall have a great punishment in world hereafter” (Q.5: 34). “As for the disbelievers”, it says that “for them garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowls and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods” (Q. 22: 9). Quran prohibits a Muslim to befriend a non-believer even if that non-believer is the father or the brother of that Muslim (Q. 9: 23), (Q. 3: 28). Quran asks the Muslims to “strive against the unbelievers with great endeavor (Q. 25: 52), be stern with them because they belong to hell (Q. 66: 9). The holy Prophet demanded his follower to “strike off the heads of the disbelievers”; then after making a “wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives” (Q. 47: 4). As for women the book of Allah says that they are inferior to men and their husbands have the right to scourge them if they are found disobedient (Q. 4:34). It teaches that women will go to hell if they are disobedient to their husbands (Q. 66:10). It maintains that men have an advantage over the women (Q. 2:228). It not only denies the women's equal right to their inheritance (Q. 4:11-12), it also regards them as imbeciles and decrees that their witness is not admissible in the court (Q. 2:282).
This means that a woman who is raped cannot accuse her rapist unless she can produce a male witness. Muhammad allowed the Muslims to marry up to four wives and gave them license to sleep with their slave maids and as many “captive” women as they may have (Q. 4:3). He himself did just that. This is why anytime a Muslim army subdues another nation, they call them kafir and allow themselves to rape their women. Pakistani soldiers raped up to 250,000 Bangali women in 1971 after they massacred 3,000,000 unarmed civilians when their religious leader decreed that Bangladeshis are unislamic. This is why the prison guards in Islamic regime of Iran rape the women and then kill them after calling them apostates and the enemies of Allah.
2007-01-10 23:32:39
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answered by lennon 1
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