2007-01-10 21:00:04 · 29 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
In John 10:30 Jesus said, "I and my Father are one." This verse, according to Christians, shows God and Jesus Christ to be same. On the other hand, we read in John 20:17, "Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God." Here Jesus stated that there was a distinction between him and God. In other words that Jesus himself had a God. Also, Matthew 27:46 "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? That is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" Here Jesus Christ cried in loud voice calling for his God.
2007-01-10 21:21:40 · update #1
These are two different and opposite ways Jesus relates himself to God. The first one, he and God are one, and the second, he refers to a higher authority than him which is God. Now assuming that both are correct statements then we have a contradiction. If, for example, Jesus Christ was God himself as in John 10:30 then it would be more appropriate for him to say "...and to myself, and your God." in John 20:17, or "Myself, Myself, why hast thou forsaken me?" in Matthew 27:46. If, on the other hand, one of them is wrong and the other is correct then we have to discard the one we believe to be incorrect! Since God does not make mistakes then we no longer believe the Bible is the word of God (because we believe there is a contradiction of God’s words in the Bible).
2007-01-10 21:22:02 · update #2
depends on who you ask, one would say yes, another would say no, some would even say yes and no, its alll a matter of doctrine. thomas
2007-01-10 21:04:08 · answer #1 · answered by Thomas A 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
First the names:
1.Jesus is the popular but incorrect translation of the original Jewish name Joshua which is more accurate.
However I find it contradicting for him to be named Jesus(Joshua) when he was supposed to be named Immanuel
2. The Tittle God is just that a tittle and tittles can be applied to anyone or anything.
Idolatry is result of it.
Second :
1. When one uses the tittle god it is important to give a name, if there is one. Since we are talking about Scriptures and considering the context of the question, the god being referred to here is either Jehovah/YHWH.
now when we reconstruct the question we have
Is Jesus the same as Jehovah which we can clearly he is not since Jehovah before Jesus and Jesus came later.
Even more so, this is who Jesus would have prayed to and spoke to when we he mentioned doing so.
2007-01-11 05:23:25 · answer #2 · answered by S.O.P 1 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Yes. There is only one God & He exists as one Trinity : The Father, The Son (Whom we referred to as Jesus Christ) & The Holy Spirit. God The Father is the Creator of the universe & humanity, God the eternal Son became incarnate in Jesus & The Holy Spirit is sent by The Father & The Son to be always with His children (those of us that truly believe in Him).
2007-01-11 05:25:48 · answer #3 · answered by i_wonder 1 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Yes, to say Jesus should have the same feeling or meaning as God.
Jesus never said the exact three words, "I am God". But Jesus also never said the exact four words, "I am a prophet" or the exact four words "I am a man," but we know he was both a prophet and a man. It is not necessary for Jesus to say the exact phrase "I am a man" for us to know that he was a man.
Likewise, it is not necessary for Jesus to utter the exact three words "I am God" in order for us to determine whether or not he is divine. Jesus may not have said the exact sentence "I am God" but he did claim the divine name for himself (Exo. 3:14 with John 8:58) and he also received worship (Matt. 2:2; 14:33; 28:9; John 9:35-38).
When Moses was up at the Mount speaking to God, Moses asked God what his name was. God said, "I AM WHO I AM”; and He said, “Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you,’” (Exodus 3:14). In John 8:58 Jesus said, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am.” Right after this the Jews pick up stones to throw at him.
Later, in John 10:30-33 Jesus claimed to be one with the Father and the Jews wanted to stone him again because they said to Jesus, "You, being a man, make yourself out to be God." Jesus had claimed the divine name for his own in the Jews wanted to kill him for it.
Therefore, from Jesus' own mouth we see that he was claiming to be God.
Are you looking to dispute the Bible? I've read your last comments. I will be more than willing to debate you.
2007-01-11 13:25:40 · answer #4 · answered by ? 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
People really dont' make the difference. we have the Trinity, which is made up of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost, not God, the Son and the Holy Ghost. God is a generic name and Jesus is part of it, just like the Father and the Holy Ghost
2007-01-11 05:08:52 · answer #5 · answered by Ana 3 · 0⤊ 2⤋
Of course no.
The one and only one true answer does not depend on who is answering or whatelse.
Jesus(A.S) is a creature!
God is The Creator (= El Khaaliik)!
Koran Sura 112: (Al-Ikhlaas)
In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
1. Say: He is Allah, the One;
2. Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
3. He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
4. And there is none like unto Him.
Believe in my word, believe in Koran, belive in Islam. Do believe.
2007-01-11 05:25:16 · answer #6 · answered by veysel_peru 2 · 2⤊ 1⤋
They are different fictional characters of middle eastern tales and legends.
In 321 AD, a group of christian marketers got together in Nicea and came up with the idea of trinity to make the whole thing more interesting and confusing. So, some will argue that it's the same, some will argue the opposite. Let's see :-)
2007-01-11 05:05:26 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋
According to the Bible, Jesus says "Whoever has seen me has seen the Father". Here is the reference:
John 14:8-10
Phillip said to him, "Lord, show us the Father and it will be enough for us." Jesus replied to him, "Have I been with you so long without your knowing me Phillip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father; so how can you say 'Show us the Father'? Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works."
2007-01-11 05:10:35 · answer #8 · answered by mommyloveseva 2 · 3⤊ 2⤋
Jesus is God in the flesh. He is the part of God that dwelled with man to overcome temptation and remain perfect and to lay down his flesh for our sin. The whole of God is Father, Son and Holy Spirit The same as the whole of a man is not merely flesh but also spirit. We are created in God's image. It is through sin that the flesh perishes. Through sin came sin and death and a separation from our righteous God. It is because of our sin that we are separated and would perish if not for God being not merely righteous but also merciful. Man fell away from God because of sin and God is righteous and the wages of sin is death. God loved his creation even though we were sinful but could not simply say sin is okay no matter how hard a man repent he is still sinful and separated from God and sentenced to death. God in his mercy came to the world in the form of a man Jesus Christ to overcome sin and death to pay the price of our sin that we could be reunited with him eternally those who accept the atonement he provided.
2007-01-11 05:11:38 · answer #9 · answered by djmantx 7 · 3⤊ 2⤋
Some Christians say Jesus is God. However Jesus did not say he was God.
2007-01-11 05:04:06 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 2⤋
Almighty God (Allah created heaven and earth. But Jesus pbuh was only messenger and prophet of God.
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2007-01-11 05:12:16 · answer #11 · answered by savoir-vivre 1 · 2⤊ 2⤋