A question for Catholics?

Question

Do you deny these prayers?

Holy Mary, Mother of God,
Pray for us sinners, now
and at the hour of our death.
Amen

Hail May, full of grace, the Lord is with thee,
Blessed Art Thou amongst women,
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus,

These are just two prayers to Mary that I remember having to say in catecism and in church. Yes, prayers to Mary, but yet you deny praying to Mary. Do you agree this is idol worship? Does anyone else have anything to say about this?

Sorry I got the parts backwards. It's been awhile since I had to say these prayers. I am a born again Christian now and don't use these prayers.

So far no one had denied that they say these prayers!

But they deny praying to Mary in other answers.

My point to asking this question is that I have seen some questions where catholics are asking why we accuse them of praying to Mary. They all seem so upset about being accused of this and are even denying it in some answers. Thank you catholics, some of you have been very honest. You do pray to Mary which is Idol Worship in the Holy Bible.

Just Curious asked a question earlier about why we say the things we do about the catholic church. I think she might even have her answers here.

Here is the question asked by "Just Curious"

When will some people stop accusing Catholics that they do things they don't do?
like worshipping the Virgin Mary and the Saints...

Answer 1

I'm catholic, and as a catholic I don't deny Mary. Hail Mary is one of my daily prayers.

Where did you get that catholic people deny Mary???

Answer 2

You got the two parts backwards. This is a single prayer called the Hail mary.


"Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee; bleesed art thou amongst women" is from Luke 1:28 - the angel Gabriel brings this as a message from God himself to Mary.

"and blessed is the fruit of thy womb (Jesus)" is from Luke 1:42, and was said by St. Elizabeth (mother of John the Baptist) too Mary. it is in the prayer to always remind that Jesus is the source of grace.

"Holy Mary, Mother of God" - Mary is clearly the mother of the Lord, as Luke 2:6-7, Matthew 1:25 make clear. Modern theology holds that Jesus is God, and so Mary's status as "Theotokos" (greek for 'God bearer') is essentially undeniable.

Pray for us sinners now and at the hour of death" - this is the crux of it. We are in fact asking Mary to pray for US, and not so much praying to her. Intercessory prayer (prayer on behalf of others) is licit according to scripture (Exodus 32:11-13, Exodus 32:31-32, Ezra 9:6-15, Daniel 9:4-19, Nehemiah 1:3-11, John 17:6-26, Acts 7:60, Ephesians 3:14-20, Philippians 1:9-11, Colossians 1:9-17)

http://www.allaboutprayer.org/intercessory-prayer.htm

Answer 3

>>These are just two prayers to Mary that I remember having to say in catecism and in church.<<

Firstly, it is actually one prayer, and you have the second part first and the first part second. Secondly, what part of "Pray FOR us" do you not understand? Do YOU deny that the Bible says "pray for one another" (James 5:16)? If I ask you to pray FOR me, is that idolatry?

>>So far no one had denied that they say these prayers!<<

No, I don't deny praying SCRIPTURE. Why are you so afraid of SCRIPTURE?

Hail May, full of grace, the Lord is with thee, (Luke 1:28)
Blessed Art Thou amongst women, (Luke 1:42)
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus, (Luke 1:42)
Holy Mary, Mother of God, (Luke 1:43)
Pray for us sinners, now (James 5:16)
and at the hour of our death.
Amen

Answer 4

You answered your own question.

1) The first part of the prayer is merely repeating what the Archangel Gabriel said to Our Lady at the Annunciation.

2) The second part is asking for Our Lady's intercession (pray for us) as we would any Christian.

It's not worship. Worship is reserved for the Blessed Trinity alone.

Answer 5

Holy Mary, Mother of God,
Pray for us sinners now
And at the time of our death,
Amen

Prayers for the Holy Rosary. I don't know about other religion but I know no one among my peers, friends, neighbors, classmates, co-workers and in our Catholic community who denies Mary, the mother of Jesus, whose intercession is always sought by the faithful.

Answer 6

hahahahahaha! idol worship? so when Angel Garbriel greeted the Virgin Mary "Hail Mary" did it mean Angel Gabriel is guilty of idolatry as well?

in addition: why should we deny things that doesn't even go against the bible?

another addition: wow, now you are putting words on people's mouth.

JohnC: why refrain? isn't bashing Catholics what you were taught to do like what that questioner is doing?

Answer 7

I do not deny saying that prayer and I will keep saying it and you and no one else will stop me .

I was born a Catholic and will die a Catholic

God Bless You

Answer 8

Not idolatry, but a paraphrasing of what the Gabriel said to Mary at the Annunciation.

Answer 9

First they are the same prayer not separate prayers and you have them backwards.

Second The key is "Pray for us sinners"

We do not pray to her we ask her to pray for us.

Why are you even asking this question you already have in your mind what you want as you own answer so why bother us"?

Answer 10

why, is there a reason for denial about this matter? you have recieved very intelligent answers from Catholics basing their answers on the Bible as well, so i don't see a point to your accusation of idol worship.