I'm personally not offended by crosses and if there's a case you're talking about I don't know about it. I seriously doubt atheists have anything to do with it.
On the other hand, it's always puzzled us why a method of capital punishment should be displayed in such a morbid and grotesque manner, often bejeweled and made of precious metals. Would any of you wear a little electric chair around your necks, or a tiny golden gibbet? Would a massive super-scale gallows on a mountain top fill you with spiritual inspiration?
2007-01-10 10:22:30
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answered by Bad Liberal 7
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so that you received't options if we positioned up a Thor's Hammer on PUBLIC property, accurate next on your go, accurate? Or a pentagram on a court docket homestead? you'll settle for that, accurate? pondering our effortless regulation comes from the Anglo-Saxons who were pagans to commence with... A Thor's Hammer or maybe the Triquerta (which christianity now tries to apply as a style of the trinity without comprehend its origins lol), might want to in fantastic condition particularly nicely. And basically why is it even as someone says some thing about the go, it truly is "oh it become once so helpful in u . s . of america... now it sucks".... yet you do not communicate about how christians damage mennorahs in the course of the wintry climate holidays.... or how christians have used the aclu to produce different religious symbols removed from public places. No.... I advise you all drop the hypocrisy first, THEN human beings will go lower back to having tolerance. yet no longer till we are shown tolerance besides. "supply up being such cowards" yet you're on line telling human beings this. Take it to the line, hun... let's have a look at the way you do there
2016-12-28 15:46:11
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answered by ? 4
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Its not the atheists only who are offended, but every non-Christian taxpayer who is paying for the maintenance of this thing and the PUBLIC land that it was erected on. Why should the taxpayers have to foot the bill to fight this 'one looney'? Why should the taxpayers have to foot the bill to have this cross on their land to begin with if it's not a symbol that has significance to them?
2007-01-10 10:17:57
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answered by Anonymous
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I think political correctness an athiesm are different things. Many athiests would be happy with religious symbols but they have no say over the p.c. laws, no-one is consulted when these legal cases are made on either side, it's got a life of it's own - probably to cover up the athiesm inherent in the corporate wage-slave culture anyway. Most ppl want stuff like equality but less laws not more government telling us what we can and can't do. Somewhere the good intentions have been corrupted
2007-01-10 10:16:20
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answered by Anonymous
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In general it isn't the religious symbol that 'offends' an atheist (or a person from a different religion). It's the idea that public lands belong to the whole public, not just for a certain group to display their religious symbols. Most wouldn't have a problem if the symbols of all religions, beliefs and non beliefs were equally displayed.
The problem comes when Christians think everyone wants to see their symbols. Same as prayer in school. It used to be that all elementary school children were taught and had to recite Christian prayers every morning - regardless of what they or their family may have believed in (or not).
Public places come about through taxpayers monies, as you noted, but not all taxpayers are Christian (or whatever) so it is not right to pick one group's symbols to display. I often wonder what the Christian response might be if pentagons started springing up in public places. How about the symbols of some other religion?
2007-01-10 10:09:10
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answered by Sun: supporting gay rights 7
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The only thing that offends me is EVERYBODY saying the Constitution says about SEPARATION OF STATE AND CHURCH. All I have been able to find is where it says SHALL NOT ESTABLISH (meaning starting a state run church) like The Church of England.
I would really like to see where the Constitution says there SHALL BE A SEPARATION. I have read the Constitution and have not seen that.
The ACLU started that from a speech that (I believe was Roosevelt, approx the 1940's) said that with all the groups hollering that THEY WILL PUT A WALL OF SEPARATION.
If you were to check your history the founding fathers did allow churches to meet in Government buildings, but they did it fairly. They allowed first one Religion then another on a rotating basis. They even ADVOCATED having religious classes in the schools.
It's not what I know that gets me in trouble, it's what I know ain't so.
This country is also supposed to be ruled by majority vote not the few rule the majority.
I am sorry but I don't see how a cross on a hill is forcing some Religion on people. If they are so worried about crosses and such then why don't they take on the FEDS. Get all the crosses taken out of Arlington National Cemetary, or all the VA Cemetaries. Those are funded by TAXPAYERS MONEY.
Oh! I forgot when people talk about others forcing their Religion on them, here is a question for them. You aren't forcing your ideas on everybody else.
I find it offensive that groups want their rights, which is fine, but then abuse those rights. One example are music groups wanting their right of FREEDOM OF SPEECH, then look at the type of things they have in their music, RACISM, HATE, ADVOCATING VIOLENCE, AND FOUL LANGUAGE, just to name a few. Then others out there BLASTING THIS SO CALLED MUSIC SO THAT IT CAN BE HEARD A BLOCK AWAY. What about MY RIGHTS TO NOT HEAR IT? Yes you will say I don't have to listen but when I have my doors closed and radio on in my car or house and I can still hear it because it is so LOUD. Now you are forcing your crap on ME.
Look at how some kids and even some adults dress, I find it VERY OFFENSIVE to see them walking down the street or other places with their pants half way down their legs. I DON'T CARE TO SEE YOUR UNDERWEAR. You look RIDICULOUS AND DOESN'T REFLECT VERY WELL ON YOU OR YOUR PARENTS.
2007-01-10 11:07:37
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answered by trollwzrd 3
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LOL. Who told you that?
Paladin and Phoenix explained it well. Whoever told you that the problem was atheists being offended by crosses is simply lying to you - I wouldn't trust that person any more if I were you.
As for your "looney" comment, if you don't like the freedom of religion, you can certainly move to a country that doesn't have it - Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan come to mind.
2007-01-10 10:16:50
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answered by Anonymous
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I am not an athiest, and the cross offends me. I believe in Jesus, but I don't need a symbol of His death to remind me how great He is. My mother was murdered 20 years ago, and I don't wear a gun on a chain around my neck to remind me I loved her. The cross is sick.
2007-01-10 10:10:13
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answered by cclleeoo 4
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Supposedly, most of the people who live in the US are Christians...therefore, most of the people paying taxes are Christians. If I lived in a country that was mostly Buddhist, I would expect to see Buddhists symbols on public land. If I lived somewhere where most of the citizens were Muslims, I would expect to see thier symbols. And so it is...
Funny how, here in America, where most of the citizens are supposedly Christians, there is this major push on to take down all the symbols of our main religion.
Passing strange.....
2007-01-10 10:33:57
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answered by Anonymous
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If it is on publicly owned land, then it should be removed. You don't see religious symbols for other religions on publicly owned land. Why? Because it's publicly owned, by people of all religions. I know you'd make a fuss if someone put a giant pentacle in a public park.
You people need to learn how rude and inconsiderate it is to seize every opportunity to shove your religion in other people's faces. You would come across as a lot more dignified and secure in your beliefs.
2007-01-10 10:12:11
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answered by M L 4
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