Let me put it this way; if I'm rock climbing, and I see that your rope is unsafe, am forcing my?

Question

beliefs on you if I tell you?

Answer 1

Is my rope unsafe, or do you prefer to use a different knot than the one I've tied?

Answer 2

What the hell do beliefs have to do with an unsafe rope?
That has to be the craziest analogy I've ever heard.
Lets say your the one with an unsafe rope. I tell you "Be careful dude that rope is bad, Hang on to mine or your screwed"
What has that got to do with religion??????
It has to do with common sense.
Your not forcing your beliefs on anyone when your protecting their lives. Religion has to do with After the rope snaps and your body is laying at the bottom of a cliff like a big squished pile of gew! then and only then do you need to tell me Jesus saves.

Answer 3

Rock climbing is a RELIGION NOW?! Oh and me without my CHALK. I'm going right to hell.

You're assuming I NEED a rope. Grow up. Have faith, maybe I can fly and I'm just PRETENDING to need a rope. If I don't know my own darn rope is unsafe I don't need to be climbing rocks now do I? (sigh) I could go on for hours telling you how stupid your analogy is....

Answer 4

Let's put it THIS way. If we're rock climbing and you tell me that you see a giant pterodactyl swooping down on me and you point it out and I neither see it nor believe that pterodactyls live anymore, and yet you CONTINUE to tell me about the dangers of pterodactyls, then YES. You are forcing your beliefs on me. Ropes I can see and feel. I'll notice it if you show me that it's unsafe. It's when you start screaming about things that only YOU can see that I start to question your sanity.

Get it?

Answer 5

This is a terrible analogy. The problem is that you might think I'm rock climbing and in imminent danger, when in actual fact I'm just lying on the sofa drinking a cup of tea. Not at all dangerous. Your analogy already contains religious dogma so it's impossible to argue against effectively.

Answer 6

We are climbing/repelling. My 'rope' is as thin as a thread. Yours is proper cord.

You stop me and say, "Your rope is... well, a thread. It will not hold you." I say, "Trust me, I know what I'm doing."

At this point, you've cautioned me. And I've made it clear I'm confident in that decision.

What you don't know, and the reason I'm confident -- my 'thread' is diamond fiber, and it is three times the tensile strength of your proper cord, as well, it has far superior thermal qualities.

If Christians stopped here... things would be great.

Most... however... reach over and grab my figure 8 and shove me away from the wall. "Are you insane?! I just told you, that line won't hold! You're going to fall and break your back, do you want to be paralyzed?!" So I calmly look at you and explain the nature of my thread. I offer you a piece of it to test on a short outcropping.

Instead of giving me the benefit of the doubt, or respecting my right to make my own decisions, you refuse to test my sample and get up in my face, "Diamond fiber?! I've never heard of any thing like that, it's just plain white polyester thread, I'm not going to let you kill yourself!" I go into specific detail on how diamond fibers can be formed, woven into thread, and put to use, I even lightly skim over the molecular theory required to understand the structure and strength of it. You just dismiss all the science and declare that molecular theory won't save me from paralysis.

At this point, is it any wonder that with humans being what they are, I'm going to start showing you all the flaws in your choice of rope? It gets hot, it frays, etc... It's cumbersome, it's weak, it doesn't have any of the benefits of my thin thread. But you've already convinced yourself, so isntead of listening to it, you shove your fingers in your ears and start declaring the supremecy of rope over diamond fibre.


If you just stopped at, "Hey, that thread looks too weak," and my, "It's a new type of thread, it'll hold," then the whole fight would have been avoided.

So how do we get more speulunkers -- I mean Christians -- to just show us their rope and then leave us alone to decide which rope to use?

Answer 7

You are talking apples and oranges. Rock climbing has physical attributes and is "real".

Your view of "unsafety" is based on belief, not fact. You have no actual clues to the facts so yes, you are forcing your beliefs on others.

Answer 8

Bad analogy. A better one would be, if we're strolling along in the park, but for some reason you actually think we're rock climbing, and keep yelling about how stupid I am, and my rope's going to break, am I going to get annoyed? Yes, I am.

Answer 9

So, if someone is living their life believing in the fairy tales of a "holy book" and imaginary friends, it's your obligation to share your belief that they're delusional and introduce them to reality? I agree.

Remember, Atheism is the default, before all the brainwashing. You can come back to us!

Answer 10

Not a belief, a fact coming from an observation. That is totally different.