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all non believers say our proof is wrong, so prove i'm wrong and your right... with absolute certainty, for all you scientific people, prove with absolute scientific facts that he isn't real. a guy that spoke at my church said he wasted 20 years of his life trying to prove God is fake, and he never could.

2007-01-10 06:53:46 · 38 answers · asked by Jen 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

well the bible also says that God's concept of time is different then ours is, the bible never said our days should be 24 hours long so for all we know, the days could be referring to in our measurements of time a million years for all we know. I know that i can't prove to you all that God exists i, just like every other christian, am tired of peole saying all this stuff about how we're wrong

so in other words thank you for proving my point that both sides need to stop saying how wrong the other one is, because after we all die, we'll find out who is right.

2007-01-10 07:41:54 · update #1

actually historicaly most things in the bible have been proven fact... but i get you alls point, i'll pray for you so that you will see the truth before it is to late

2007-01-10 07:44:57 · update #2

darwin was an idiot... there is a reason his theory is still theory and not scientific law

2007-01-10 07:50:08 · update #3

sorry lucy k but your wrong... and that website has no factual evidence... gravity is a law... and i have read about darwin i've takin classes about his work and i have a 4.0 GPA which is probably double yours( in other words thats a 2.0!! if you didn't know) Darwin was an idiot and anyone that truely studies his work, like i have, will tell you the same thing

2007-01-10 12:17:26 · update #4

38 answers

They don't. Look at their answers.

2007-01-10 06:58:52 · answer #1 · answered by Cristina 4 · 1 3

Okay.

Try to imagine the odds of the existence of life. I'm talking about the chance that life came to exist here on this little planet in its own little corner of the universe. Try to comprehend all the variables that must exist in order for us to be here. Try to think about the incredible unlikeliness that you as an individual would come to exist the way you have.

Do you realize how complicated life is? Do you realize how many factors must be in place in order for there to be any life at all, let alone the type of life that exists here?

Now, if there really is a god then he must be more complicated than the life he has created. Surely the wonders all around us are nothing compared to the complexity of such a being that could create everything in the first place.

If the chances of life existing are so remote, then the chances of a god existing must be even more unlikely.

You wanted proof that god doesn't exist? That's as close as you're going to get.

2007-01-10 07:08:44 · answer #2 · answered by boukenger 4 · 1 0

Actually it can be prove that your god as you describe him does not exist. It’s been done time and time again. You cannot have an all-loving, all-powerful, all-present, all-knowing god because it by its very definition contradicts itself and is impossible. It's called logic my dear.

I’d like to know what historical things in the bible have been proven fact? Because most of it is just pure fiction and doesn’t match up with known and recorded history. Jews enslaved in Egypt? Never happened. Actual records of Jesus existing as a man, nope. http://www.jesusneverexisted.com bet you’re too chicken to read it though.

Saying you’ll pray for us is nothing more then a cheap insult and you know it. If it’s any consolation, I’ll pray to Odin for you that he may grant you some knowledge.

Darwin wasn’t an idiot and how would you know anyways, you obviously have never read any of his works. And you obviously have never passed a science class if you do not understand the definition of a scientific theory. Gravity is a theory too, would you call Newton an idiot because it’s called a theory and you don’t understand how it works?

2007-01-10 08:54:30 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

First of all you are objecting your faith by looking for proof it is not real. Second what we cannot prove with experiments we do with theory and rational. Do you need an experiment to prove the tooth fairy isn't so?

The only thing that ties religion to reality is the book which has mostly been proven false besides the indestructible imagination and stretch of metaphor theories.

You want proof and are willing to actually dedicate time to knowledge than read! read! read! read!

Read for yourself and only yourself.!

Read books by Charles Darwin, Jean-Paul Sartre, Steven Hawkings. We are not going to feed you months worth of knowledge. You crave so feed your desire.

Ever wonder why typically only the religious only question an atheists beliefs? If you are so sure you shouldn't ask such a question.

2007-01-10 07:11:03 · answer #4 · answered by obscure 3 · 0 0

No one can prove that. At the same time, no one can prove that God DOES exist either. There's lots of "personal feelings" and wild anecdotes, but nothing concrete to "absolutely prove" that there is a God out there. So we're left with the same situation: Why believe in something that there is no evidence for?

2007-01-10 06:57:51 · answer #5 · answered by Scott M 7 · 5 0

It can, and has been proven, that prayer does not work, by any stretch of the imagination.

All of the bible's claims, as to the origins of the earth, have been proven false, along with just about everything else in it, regarding the supernatural.

If a god does exist, it is most certainly not the one described in the Bible. That has been proven. I don't really know what else to tell you, other than you simply need to accept facts. Ignoring them serves no one.

2007-01-10 06:59:12 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

your pastor is right You CAN'T PROVE GOD WRONG because God does truly exist, Consider truths given by God through the Bible. Use a KJV Bible, it was converted to English, and is the only 100% true Bible on earth.

2007-01-10 07:03:07 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

For knowledge to exist, three facts must be accepted as true:

- Math & Logic are valid
- Direct observations or aided observations supported by Math & Logic are valid
- Supernatural existence, if real, does not involve itself in the natural realm (otherwise, any 'fact' could be changed by the interference -- say by the God of Gravity changing his mind on how strong it will be tomorrow).

Free will can thus be shown to be false:

- The mind is a consequence of the physical nature of the brain (Nonsupernatural causation axiom).
- Quantum physics contains a truly random component (Mathematical axiom)
- All observations can be expressed mathematically (Mathematical axiom).
- All principles causal to observations can be expressed mathematically (Mathematical Axiom).
- All mathematical expressions can be evaluated (Mathematical Axiom).
- An evaluation need not be deterministic, it can be stochaistic, that is, describing 'probabilities'. (Statistical mathematics).
- Since quantum physics can affect the human brain, and thus mind, the human state is mathematically stochaistic (consequential)
- If the quantum randomness is rescoped to be viewed as an input, the human brain ceases to be stoichasitic and is deterministic. (statement of rescope)
- A deterministically computable system is incapable of escaping its previous states, and produces outputs based on a computable result of the previous state and current inputs.(Turing-Church Thesis)
- Determinism counters free will. (By definition)
- Free will is not possible. (consequential)
- If a deity exists, free will is a natural consequence. (axiomic, potentially debatable. However, a deity that creates intelligence without free will cannot hold its creation responsible)
- Free will does not exist, therefore, deity does not exist. (modus tollens).

The idea of a god existing is disproven logically.

2007-01-10 07:01:13 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

I'll prove it after you prove to me that Zeus doesn't exist, or that we are not all the spawn of the rainbow-colored balloon creatures of Zorg.

Actually, I can prove to you god doesn't exist. Easiest thing in the world, to prove that the biblical god doesn't exist. Read it and weep.

(1) If an omniscient, omnipotent, and omnibenevolent God existed, there would be no gratuitous suffering in the world.

(2) There is gratuitous suffering in the world.

Conclusion: There is no omniscient, omnipotent, and omnibenevolent God.

2007-01-10 07:04:20 · answer #9 · answered by OneBadAsp 2 · 2 1

There is no "absolute" proof of anything. With out senses that may be compromised or instruments that those compromised senses created there is no way to "absolutely" prove that YOU even exist. Get a clue.

2007-01-10 07:01:55 · answer #10 · answered by bocasbeachbum 6 · 1 0

You argument is faulty because you can't prove a negative. If you are telling me that God does exist, the burden of proof falls YOU not me.

2007-01-10 07:00:54 · answer #11 · answered by Subconsciousless 7 · 1 0

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