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Do you believe it is a sign they have God's holy spirit?
Does anyone know of any charitable works they are involved in?
Besides telling us all we are going to burn forever in a firey hell?
I mean everyone except them, they don't think other pencostal religions are saved either. Just them.

2007-01-10 02:20:19 · 14 answers · asked by Ruth 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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The Scriptures show that the miraculous gifts given to first-century Christians were only temporary in nature. “Love never fails. But whether there are gifts of prophesying, they will be done away with; whether there are tongues, they will cease.” (1 Cor. 13:8) Does the Bible give any indication as to when the gifts would cease? Yes, it does.

Read for yourself the reported cases when the gift of tongues accompanied the outpouring of holy spirit: Acts 2:1-4, 14; 10:44-48; 19:6. You will notice that in every case one or more of the apostles of Jesus Christ were present. According to Acts 8:18, “through the laying on of the hands of the apostles the spirit was given.” Logically, then, with the death of the apostles, the transmitting of the gifts of the spirit, including the gift of tongues, ceased. The gift of tongues had served its purpose. It had been well established that the Christian congregation had God’s favor and backing. Moreover, Christians had grown in number and had been dispersed to many lands, carrying the “good news” with them.—Compare Colossians 1:23.

‘But if the gifts have ceased, then what accounts for modern-day manifestations?’ some may ask.

“We are also aware that a similar phenomenon can occur under occult/demonic influence,” admitted a joint statement by the Fountain Trust and the Church of England Evangelical Council. (Italics added.)

Could it be possible that the modern-day gift of tongues is not from God? Admittedly, accepting this may be difficult for those who claim to have the gift. Of the 5,000,000 adult Americans who claim to speak in tongues, 33 percent do not even believe that the Devil is a personal being and that he can influence others. Well, then, how can you know for sure from what source modern-day manifestations come?

Jesus provided the key for identifying true Christians when he declared: “Every good tree produces fine fruit.” (Matt. 7:17) Yes, there would have to be fruitage, or evidence, that God’s holy spirit was backing them. It is revealing to consider the Scriptural evidences of such in the light of the Christianity Today—Gallup poll, published in the February 22, 1980, issue of Christianity Today.

Not once do the Scriptures record the granting of a miraculous gift to one who approved of or who practiced sin. The first-century Christian congregation at Corinth included persons who formerly had been immoral but had changed on becoming Christians. They no longer indulged in a life of sexual immorality. (1 Cor. 6:9-11) And, yet, according to the poll, 19 percent of those who speak in tongues today approve of sexual relations before marriage.

True Christians would respect the Bible as being the Word of God. Jesus Christ quoted the Scriptures and viewed them as being God’s word. (John 17:17) But, according to the poll, 44 percent of those who speak in tongues in our day do not hold the Bible to be the most important religious authority.

“Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations,” commanded Jesus. (Matt. 28:19, 20) And he foretold that the “good news” of God’s kingdom would be preached “in all the inhabited earth for a witness.” (Matt. 24:14) True Christians should be active in doing this. However, according to the poll, 51 percent of those who now speak in tongues do not talk about their faith at least weekly, and 58 percent do not set priority on helping to win others for Christ.

“They are no part of the world,” said Jesus regarding his followers. (John 17:16) But far from being “no part of the world,” “in political affiliation” speakers in tongues “conform closely to the pattern of the general populace,” reports Christianity Today.

“By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves,” said Jesus. (John 13:35) The apostle John added: “We should have love for one another; not like Cain, who originated with the wicked one and slaughtered his brother.” (1 John 3:11, 12) True Christians have genuine love for one another. They are not divided by racial, national or social prejudices. Even in times of war, they refuse to slaughter fellow believers in other lands. Is that true of the general populace? Of those who claim to have the gift of tongues?

So, then, what does the evidence show? Well, since those who speak in tongues as a group are not producing the “fruits” that identify true Christians, it is clear that those who claim to have the gift of tongues could not have received it from the same source that the early Christians did.

The Scriptures contain strong warnings that indicate another source is responsible. Jesus foretold: “Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew you!” (Matt. 7:22, 23) The apostle Paul warned that the time would come when ‘powerful works’ and “lying signs” would take place as an “operation of Satan.”—2 Thess. 2:9, 10.

How, then, can you identify true followers of Christ if it is not by the possession of miraculous gifts of tongues? By the “fruits".

Hope that helps.

2007-01-10 05:45:02 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

its definitley a Sign, but it is not an ALL INCLUSIVE sign.
remember corrinthians ch. 13 lists several types of the gifts of spirit. Not everyone has all the gifts and not everyone has the same gift.
the gifts of the spirit are given without repentance as the Holy Ghost wills.
People who mumble and mutter words unknown to everyone are delusional for the most part, and are false in their understanding of what the gift actually does.
TO me a good example of speaking in tounges is like the unviversal translator On StarTrek the Next Generation. two people can speak in their own language and each can understand the other and both are edified.
If there is no translation there is no gift of the spirit.
but some people Never get the gift of tongues, Paul says very clearly we can "desire" a gift and ask for it. He believed personally that the gift of prophecy is the best gift. cor 14:1,39

2007-01-10 02:31:43 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Honestly well i am Pentecostal, and we believe (and the bible will back us up) that the tongue is the most unruly thing that a human has. In order to prove that you are completely involved in the spirit, god has to be able to completely lead your life through this we have speaking in tongues. And yes i know i am not stupid we are known as judge mental Christians. And we don't condemn other Pentecostal unless we see them do things that would lead any1 to think that their big hypocrites. But is really doesn't matter whether you think that is weird but the way you live you life under god's eye is what allows you to be saved not by being Pentecostal.

2007-01-10 02:42:29 · answer #3 · answered by crazy/smart guy 2 · 0 0

Your information on pentecostal is so off base. I don't think God is going to sort us according to faith. I believe in the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues. But the Bible sets the priority and importance of it...Tho I speak with the tongues of angels and have not love, I will be a brass cymbal.

The importance of love in your heart for yourself and others, to love as Christ loved (non-judgemental) is the real important factor.

There is no perfect religion, Man created religion. The most you can hope for is to be able to worship God as you believe, and hear the Bible taught in a way that lifts your soul. If you find a religion that comes close to what you believe than you have found your choice of religion.

God will not judge us by religion, he will judge by what is in our heart. Focus on yourself and your relationship with God. Anything that makes that better will come in time, as needed, if you keep the main goal in mind. To Love as Christ Loved.

I will try to answer the 1st two questions, in another response. Sorry, I sort of skipped to the last two

The best book I have read so far, about the Holy Spirit, was The Holy Spirit, by Billy Graham. It's not reviting but accurate. Its not written to entertain, but to inform. I looked up every verse he refered to, so I could see if it was used in the context that it was written. It stuck to the Bible and I admire that.

2007-01-10 02:42:07 · answer #4 · answered by Pat B 3 · 0 0

Speaking in tongues is a gift from God, and it doesn't evidence that person abiding in the Holy Spirit. A person who has never spoken is tongues can have just as close of a relationship with God as one who does.

It is not a sign. It's a gift, and we should never take pride in that gift, because it is not of our doing.

I have that gift, but use it in accordance to Scripture. I don't speak in tongues in church, or in front of people who wouldn't understand, because it would not benefit them.

I enjoy that part of my relationship with God in the privacy of my own living room.

I'm not Penticostal. I'm a Christian.

I am involved with alot of charitable works.

I'll say it again. Don't look at the people. You are aiming too low. Look to God, and let His Word and the guidance of His Spirit guide you.

God said He is never changing. He gave Christians that gift in the first century church. He gives that gift now.

2007-01-10 02:32:57 · answer #5 · answered by Dianne C 3 · 1 0

You've met some pretty bad pentecostals:)
I believe in tounges...I speak them too...but if someone doesn't speak tounges, it doesn't mean they don't have the holy spirit in them.
EVERYONE who believes in Jesus Christ, and the Father and the Holy spirit....goes to Heaven...le tit be catholic or penetcostal or anything...BUT the quality of their lives wont be so complete sometimes..for exmaple beacuse of idols made by people and implemented into the teachings...which actually would be heresy in my view...

So you've met the wrong type of pentecostals:)

And yes they make a lot of things...can't name them in America..but in Hungary there are various foundations ...one of the churches have a whole TV chanel..and stuf flike that...so yes, they make good things...

God bless..

2007-01-10 02:37:36 · answer #6 · answered by Bazsa 3 · 1 0

I am a calvinist and I talk in tongues, but I don't believe that if you can't talk in tongues that you will go to hell. I know babtist think the gifts of the spirit are dead, so you know they don't talk in tongues. I still believe if they are saved, they are going to heaven just like me (I am a Calvinist) The babtist just miss out of getting healed, word of knowldge, prophecy and intercession. They think I am demonic for talking in tongues, but oh well.

2007-01-10 02:52:58 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I do its in the bible and it is Gods Holy Spirit. Alot of manmade religions think theyre way is the only way, notice I said man made religions!Just loving and accepting Jesus is good enough for Him and we will all have to answer for our sins ,because we all sin.

2007-01-10 03:51:26 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

My moms side of the family speak in tongues, my mom just got it at 49. she, nor her family is pentecostal. Jesus spoke of people speaking in tongues and said that everyone should have it. its a prayer that your soul prays to God from within you, only your soul truly knows what you need, the mind can not handle it. alot of people cannot understand this.

2007-01-10 02:34:09 · answer #9 · answered by dean 2 · 0 0

I watched a woman I worked with who would spontaneously combust in speaking in tongues. Nothing would provoke it.
It seemed like an act. I just can't believ in something that is done whenever you feel like.

2007-01-10 02:56:47 · answer #10 · answered by Kier22_2 6 · 0 0

If your believe with your heart and profess with your mouth that Jesus is the son of God you go to heavan. Even if your silly and bable lncoherently. Theres a local church, that has a class that teaches you how to speake in tounges. WOW thats silly

2007-01-10 02:26:06 · answer #11 · answered by TULSA 4 · 0 0

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