Is Britian losing it's roots?

Question

We see more provision for other religons and less and less of our own!! Islam is the fastest growing religon in our country yet at my daughters Church Of England school they've had to adapt the menu to a muslim correct one and are no longer allowed to say the Lords prayer. If i went to live in Pakistan would they build a church for me and what i believe in? Would school meals change to accomadate my culture? I feel we're losing sight of our roots we are the new and improved Pakistan. British will soon be a term of the past. Anyone see my point???

Answer 1

I think that too mant do gooders are not allowing british poeple to express there traditions anymore for fear of upsetting other religions.I respect the fact that we all have to get on in this world but religion is the main cause of unrest and anger all over the world.I was so angry this christmas when i attended my youngest daughters christmas play to discover that it is no longer about our traditional themes for fear of upsetting other regions.The list is endless in what has changed in this country yet we are fearsome to to stand up and have our say incase we end up in trouble about it.I am not a racist person and have many friends from other religions however it has all become a mess with what we as british people are allowed to say and do.We also have traditions and beleifs and we always respect other beliefs when visiting other countries.Its about time that a vote of the poeple is taken to see how and what we want for our country as a whole.People should not be afraid to express there anger over what they want to beleive in.As i heard an old man say the other day on the bus,"this country has gone to the dogs"pehaps people may agree,perhaps they may not im slightly in agreement with him.

Answer 2

I understand your concerns. We are in a state of great flux at the moment, with a lot of changes occurring. But the vast majority of people in this country are British, and most of these are Christian, or non-believers. This the bulk of our culture, but Britain has been a multi-culture for a thousand years. Just look at the influences: French Norman, French Huguenot, Danish, Swedish, Norwegian, German, Roman, Celtic, Pict, Dutch, Greek, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Islam, Sikhism etc.

The reason that Shakespeare became the most vaunted writer in the world is because he mastered the English tongue which was and ever will be a most complex and multi-cultured language.

Personally, I think a multi-culture is good for the development of knowledge and where would we be without the music or foods that new peoples have introduced to this society?

We are a colourful and vibrant group of people in the UK today and the addition of hard-working law-abiding immigrants will add to our strength, not dilute it. We must leave dilution to the racists.

PS: If you want a new church, get together with other people and petition the authorities.

PPS: I totally agree with those of you who think that banning Christmas is far too "politically correct". The response of some councils and schools on this issue has been absoloutely pathetic. I can't work out if they are more stupid than racist or more racist than stupid. White middle-class do-gooders need to understand that Chritianity is a religion too, and that white is also a skin colour.

Equality rules!

Answer 3

Strange question really!! you talk about our culture in britain, yet you are a follower of a jewish prophet (jesus). A church which came from the writings of a german (luther) and then you say that it's terrible that other cultures our impinging on us. I suppose you also give credence to St George (turkish) the royal family (german with a bit of greek). I wonder if you also believe in the aryan race (iran) or support King William champion of the protestants (dutch). I just wonder which part of what you see as british culture is actually truly british???? Maybe you even go so far as the lie of the pure blooded anglo-saxons (2 different peoples so not pure blooded but actually mixed blood) I agree that if you are going to have religion then all religion should be represented christian as well as islam and hindu, maybe not scientology cos i can do without more tom cruise interviews. Unfortunately the PC brigade have created more division than diversity. In the rush to please the minorities they have ignored the majority, thus creating a backlash that has bolstered the arguments of those fanatics on the far right. If people want to say the lords prayer then they should be allowed to. Same as muslims can say there prayers etc etc. Please don't fall for the arguments of division. This seperation can and will lead to conflict as we have seen by the rise in racially motivated crimes against both blacks and whites. I don't like extremism whether its muslim, christian or whatever but if people wish to have a faith which they can openly celebrate and share with all people this beautiful earth, then i celebrate that diversity. I am white. I don't believe in a god or gods. I'm not anti-religious. I'm not gay. i'm not disabled. And I'm not a foreigner But i am against bigotry and hatred.

Answer 4

No.....you at the instantaneous are not incorrect.....there's no rationalization, it would take me a minimum of 10 hours to describe poitical historic past to all and sundry, and that i'm genuinely no specialist. It became no lie initially, the Labour flow grew from socialist concepts, ie that the coolest points of the capitalist were depending on that's labour rigidity. therefore that's labour rigidity might want to take advantage of that earnings. This delivered about progression for the operating guy/woman. reduce to 21c we are now decrease back interior an same concern with "low-cost" labour undermining a honest salary for the indigenous worker. What does that prepare us? That earnings is all! sure, we undesirable workers will be more desirable off, yet in evaluation to our "masters" we are even extra in the back of. that's the argument at effortless........Please be at liberty to remark, solid success .

Answer 5

It's something that we have to get used to. The only people that can change this are our government and they wish to been seen as politically correct. It would take a radical uprising to see a difference but that only leaves us open to parties such as the BNP. They are not a good choice as their views are not as clear as they make them out to be. It's a situation that will keep on growing until we are the ethnic minorities in our own country.

Answer 6

The real challenge to Christianity in Britain is not the rise of Islam. Islam after all comes from the same middle eastern roots as Christianity and has much in common with it in terms of morality and values. For example, not too long ago John Snow of Channel 4 presented a documentary examining the fault lines that Islam and mainstream British society differ over, and a major one was the idea that sex outside of marriage is wrong. This Muslim view is shared by only 10% of the UK population.

According to the latest census statistics, the UK population compared is 71.6% Chrisrtian:
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=293

In reality there are strong reasons to suspect that most of these people put “Christian” on the census form for reasons of cultural identity rather than personal belief. An organisation called Christian Research carries out serious research into religious trends in the UK and their data from 2005 show that only 6.3% of the British population attend church on the average Sunday, and these tend to be significantly older than the general population, or from racial minorities :
http://www.christian-research.org.uk/pr180906.htm

According to the census data, the next largest religious group is Muslims (2.7%), all other religions are less than 1% each and together add up to 3%.

I think the real threat to Britain losing its Christian roots is a growing anti-religious prejudice, coupled with a growing ignorance amongst nominal Christians of anything to do with their religion. Compare for example current British culture in which sex outside marriage is acceptable, with that of Jane Austen's era which was more influenced by Christian ideas and in which it was considered a disgrace and a scandal. This loss of traditional family values contributes to the breakup of the family, which is part of the cause of most of the ills of British society.

As for the Lord's prayer, if a C of E school, which is by definition a Christian school, was forced to stop saying it i would think that an example of the anti-religious trend rather than a result of the growth of Islam.

Faith schools should be allowed to practice faith, but at the same time i think it is in their interest to admit pupils of other faiths and none, and not to force their religion on those pupils but rather to respect their religious differences. The pupils of other religions may thereby gain a better understanding of their faith and choose to convert, but forcing things on them will only turn them away. To put this into practice, in the case of the Lords Prayer, pupils who do not want to say it could be excused from saying it, whilst those who do say it.

If Christians want their reights and religious liberty to be respected by others, then they need to promote the principle of religious liberty and show that they respect the rights of people of all faiths, as well as those who do not want religion.

Answer 7

We couild be both a multi-cultural society and true to our roots.
I agree that we should no more expect non-muslims to conform to Muslim diet than vice versa.
What others do, however, is not relevant. We should do what is right.
eg in Saudi you would have all Christian material confiscated if your were an ex-pat worker in one of their factories, etc. That does not mean that we should be equally intolerant.
By the way, there ARE churches in Pakistan.

Answer 8

You see, this crazy tolerance thing that developed countries believe in is exactly what makes us better than places like Pakistan. If you want to be like Pakistan and oppress most cultural groups, go ahead and be pathetic and unadvanced.

Answer 9

Yep. Same for the (Inter)National Health Service. If you're a White British Citizen, get to the back of the line. Although, as an atheist verging on Buddhist, I don't particularly care about the lord's prayer. In my opinion, Christianity's outdated and causes war, like every other religion that worships a god.

Answer 10

No, I don't see your point. Multiculturalism enriches us all. This argument has been going on since Britain started its empire and these days potatoes, tomatoes, shampoo, pyjamas, tea and tikka massala are all integral parts of the British culture. I bet you can't imagine Britain without these things but they are all imports.

The culture is evolving and growing, as is the economy. This is a very good thing and is in no way negative. You are, of course, encouraged to keep any personal cultural traditions alive in your own home and in your personal community.

Long live variety!