It seems to me that if Satan was Gods first favorite angel,wise and pure,(before becoming evil) then maybe it is some how Gods fault that he is now evil. How do you get evil from all good? It doesnt make sense, God has to be part evil, you cant get somethin from nothing, evil couldnt come from all good, meaning if God created Satan, he had to put the evil in him, Satan being the product, can only be made how God made him. And free will doesnt make sense in this situation because Lucifer is supposed to be so intelligent then he knows whats going to happen to him, i mean he witnessed everything God did to create the universe, why wouldnt he just come back to God, he cannot win, and he knows his fate. Obviously hes smartet than any person, and no person would choose this stupid choice, knowing what will certainly happen, I mean eternity is a long time. God must have made him evil to serve his purposes, which sucks for the Devil, would God make a soul burn forever that has no choice?
2007-01-09 18:17:46 · 30 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Well,its none of our business,i believe we should worry about our own selves:)
Allah loves those who turn to Him in repentance, and when His servant repents to Him, it pleases Him immensely. He says: “Allah loves those who turn much in repentance, and He loves those who purify themselves.” [Sûrah al-Baqarah(2): 222]
Allah also says in the Quran
Allah says: “Allah does not forgive that anyone should set up partners with Him, but he forgives anything less than that to whom He pleases.” 4’: 48]
2007-01-09 18:40:50 · answer #1 · answered by Ali 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I like your line of reasoning... here, however is the error in your premise:
When God created Lucifer, he was indeed the Angel of Light... however he was just that.. an angel (a messenger/servant). Lucifer had an assigned place and had he stayed there, all would have been dandy.
Problem is: he didn't...
Lucifer did something he was not created to do... he made a choice. He decided to try to over throw the Throne... and let's be realistic... intelligent as he was, he just wasn't being smart. In fact, the Bible tells us that Lucifer pretty much was stuck on himself - after all, he was the best and the brightest... he was the light bearer... the most beautiful... so (he figured) why should he just take orders.... why shouldn't he be just like God... or more than God. The Bible puts it like this: You became too Proud because of your Beauty and you corrupted your wisdom because of your brightness (Ezekiel 28:17) You said in your heart, I will ascend into heaven and exalt my throne above the stars of God... I will be like the Most High" (Isaiah 14:13-14).
So, in part, you are right... the Devil has no choice... the problem is... he exercised choice in the first place... he was not given that right... and you're right... no sane person would make so stupid a choice... but we're not dealing with a sane person... we're dealing with an entity that hates humanity because we were given what he was not... free will...
Something that everyone should keep in mind is that Hell was not meant for us... the Bible clearly states that it was created for the devil and his followers... however, because Adam messed up, we have a dividing line... those who will follow God and those who won't... and anyone who makes the choice not to follow God will share in the devil's fate. Just remember... it's your choice to go to hell or not.
2007-01-09 18:48:10 · answer #2 · answered by Rev T L Clark 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
God gave us all free will. Even angels. This is a test to see what kind of person (or angel) you really are deep down inside. All of the other angels didn't turn mean. They didn't try to take over heaven. Satan knew he was intelligent ,handsome etc. and got the big head and jealous of God. He thought he was as good if not better an God. He's always trying to prove he can get more people on his side than God has. One up on God. He actually thinks he's going to win the soul collecting game. With all the evil people in the world, it makes you wonder sometimes...
2007-01-09 18:40:44 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Satan had a choice. We all have choices. Lucifer chose to rebel. Satan did not want to worship God he wanted to be God instead. Satan also deceived one third of the angels and took them down with him. Jesus did not die for the fallen angels, he died for man kind. And yes Satan does know where he is going at the end of time, he with all the fallen angles with him, including all the unbelievers and so called Christians will be burning in the lake of fire. Why do you think that he is so focused on destroying as many souls as he can, because he wants to take them down with him. Satan hates people, he has no love in his heart, it is all evil. God created Humans and all the angels with a choice. God does not treat anybody like a puppet. He does not force anybody to love him, it is all a choice, and if we make the wrong one, there is consequences for that. That is why there is a Hell. Hell was created for the devil and his angels not for Humans, but any Human who disobays God will go there.
2007-01-09 18:30:51 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
It is a pact made in the heavens to keep the evil out.It is to note that Lucifer was a powerful angel in the angel community.If God is a person who knows all,then why was Lucifer a powerful and trusted angel in the first place.It is Lucifer's curse for being so close to God in power and intelligence that he is kept away at hell.Infact God confronts the Devil through our body with the God living in us.When a situation arises were we dont behave as God must expect us to do,then its the Devils turn to reside in us.So we become the puppets in their confrontations as we live in this strange world.Now if Hell was Lucifer's punishment i think he is rather enjoying it.Its is his kingdom.He makes the choices there.Plus he gets to infiltrate human heads and put evil in its place.Now surely God must have known this would happen.God who is all knowing would also know that a certain person will end up evil or not, afterall we are his creations.Then why all this twisted methods of working things.This is one question that stays above human understandings and cannot be solved.So whoever tries...Good Luck and ...Godspeed.
2007-01-09 18:43:43 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
This, to me, seems to be an example of a schism.
The whole, whatever the whole is can always be divided into parts. Those parts are open to the, by definition, imperfect interpretation of man.
Perhaps, In the end, the basic story is about a schism coming back and reconnecting into what was once a singular whole. Maybe that's what the universe in all its awe its - the galaxies, stars, planets, Earth, humanity etc.,... Are all the consequences of the Great Schism. What we see and experience and measure and philosophize about are simply the the way we as imperfect humans interpret the manifestation of the Great Schism as seen from within.
The schism might be interpreted as good and evil (not one VS. the other, just as an acknowledgment of some difference of some kind.
Perhaps the schism is symbolized by the differences between men and women? The different races? Who knows.
All I know is that even in particle physics, a photon splits into an electron and a positron repeatedly as it travels. Those particles come back together again into the original photon from whence they came.
Maybe, it just depends on when and from what perspective we look. If we look for a schism - IE when we look for a particle, we find one. When we look for unity - IE a photon, we find it.
Perhaps good and evil are just another one of these schisms. When we look for a difference, we are sure to find it. But when we look for unity, we are sure to find that too. All the while, we are looking at the same thing - the difference is in our perspective, not in what we are looking at.
Esoteric? Absolutely. False? Who is anyone to say?
Maybe what we talk about religiously manifests as what we call God, but the same thing looked at through a scientific lens becomes "the Universe" Just like when you look for a particle, you find one and when you look for a wave, you find that too.
2007-01-13 15:26:58 · answer #6 · answered by Justin 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
God is pure holiness, justice, and righteousness. He created Lucifer and Lucifer decided that he wanted to be God. When beings with free will are created then the possibility exists that they will go against their maker. Lucifer rebelled against God and will continue to do so for all of eternity. Even if it were possible for him to repent he wouldn't want to, if he was allowed back into heaven he would turn around and do the same thing again. People hear the truth the wages of sin and about hell and say that they don't believe in a God that would send people there, and they rebel against the truth. Do they learn anything from knowing that Satan and the angels that rebelled against God are going to be in hell for eternity? They have to perceive it spiritually or else they won't turn from their sin and come to God for forgivness.
2007-01-09 19:00:08 · answer #7 · answered by hisgloryisgreat 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
From the original finding (dead sea scrolls?) there was stuff the Jewish scholars left out of the Old Testament. Such as the original humans where Adam & Lilith. They where first. She wanted to get on top during sex and to be equal to man. When Adam refused (her) this behavior, she went away and god made Adam - Eve from his rib. The scholar’s left lilith story out of the bible because it did not sound appropriate, but they did not denied that it was written or discovered as the original findings in the same scrolls used to write the first five books of the bible. In such they left out SATAN original role as leader of Angels or Gods right-hand advisor. When other angels would ask God a question or finish a mission?. God would always go to Satan and ask him what his opinion was. If this was Good or Bad, Right or Wrong as God made him before humans as the Perfect Angel.
It is only when God told Satan to worship his greatest creations (Adam / Humans) that he protest and Satan said I was first they should worship me and dismissed the human creation, so god cast Satan down on to earth for arguing with him. In such he is still Gods favorite angel.
The Left Behind…made Satan look more, & more evil in the New Testament as this was written by man reflecting situations in there time(only story’s, that don't reflect gods will). Satan was never evil. He uses deception, temptation and hope to show how the humans are not worthy. It is up to the individual (FreeWill) to know right from wrong.
2007-01-16 17:02:38 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
If a man be an evil person (fallen from his first estate) it is because sin entered the world and every man is born with the sin nature; not because Satan was cast from heaven like lightening - which he was. Under no circumstances does Satan act without restraint - neither does any created being - including you and I. God is in control of His creation and there has never been a time when He has not been. What goes on with Satan - and men - is permitted by God for His purposes, and His purposes they will serve - including you and I. You are witnessing God's permissive will operating within His sovereign will I can accept your frustration regarding what you understand because, quite simply, you do not understand. You ask if God should be criticized yet all you do is criticize God - you, a man refusing salvation criticizing the holiness of God - which again, you do not understand. That itself which you engage in is punishable by God and yet He has stayed His own hand in order that you may repent. But will you? It is possible for Satan to control you but there isn't even any "need" - for your own sin nature, which you cling to, does that. Yes, the punishment for rejecting the rich mercy of God poured out on your behalf is eternal for you are sinning with an eternal soul against the eternal God. This act of God's mercy (His appointed Redeemer sent to man) emanating from His holiness is what some, like myself, embrace and others, like you, critcize.
2016-05-23 02:30:01 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
In ancient Jewish tradition Satan is simply an angel doing the work that God assigned to Satan to do.
The word Satan means challenger. With the idea of Satan challenging us, or tempting if you will. This description sees Satan as the angel who is the embodiment of man's challenges. This idea of Satan works closely with God as an integral part of Gods plan for us. His job is to make choosing good over evil enough of a challenge so that it becomes clear to us that there can be only one meaningful or logical choice.
Contrast this to Christianity, which sees Satan as God's opponent. In Jewish thought, the idea that there exists anything capable of setting itself up as God's opponent would be considered polytheistic or setting up the devil to be an equally powerful polarity to god or a demigod.
Oddly, proof for The Christian satan/devil mythology is supposedly found in the ancient Jewish texts that were borrowed to create the bible. One can’t help but wonder how Christians came up with such a fantastically different interpretation of Gods assistant Satan in their theology.
Other hints about Satan’s role in human relations can be seen if you look at the name Lucifer. It’s meaning in the original tongue translates as Light bearer or light bringer. Essentially the bringer of enlightenment. The temptations of the Satan idea bring all of us eventually into Gods light. Hardly the Evil entity of Christian mythology.
Love and blessings
don
2007-01-10 03:34:37 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
God had stated in the Bible that whosoever repent of their sins will be forgiven. That also includes Satan. God gave all of mankind free will and that includes Satan as well. Satan chose his path. What really made Satan mad is when God gave Jesus the Son Of Man, The Light, The Way, The Christ, The Holy Spirit, Dominion over man. That made Satan mad. Satan wanted it all just for himself. Satan reacted upon his own free will. Satan wanted everything. The main thing that made Satan the way he is, is because of greed. Greed is what made Satan the way he is today.
2007-01-09 18:32:25 · answer #11 · answered by George 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋